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TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 12:34 PM

Tonight the Yankees (41-35) open a 3-game series in Pittsburgh at the beautiful PNC Park. It will be the Yankees' first trip to the city since the famous 1960 World Series. The Pirates (36-40) have lost 6 of 10, but are 23-16 at home.

Darrell Rasner (4-4, 3.64) makes the start for New York while Pittsburgh counters with 25-year old LH Tom Gorzelanny (5-6, 6.59).

Rasner had a tremendous start to his 2008 season with NYY. His first 6 starts were exceptional: 38.1 IP, 36 H, 3 HR, 1.07 WHIP, 0.85 GO:AO, with a 2.58 ERA, 5.4 K/9, and just 1.2 BB.9 with only 5 walks allowed. However on June 11th in Oakland he was hammered for 9 hits and 6 ER in just 3.2 IP, and in his last start he allowed just 2 ER over 5 IP, but walked an extremely uncharacteristic 5 batters. Rasner has a 2.08 WHIP in his past 2 starts.

Gorzelanny was outstanding for Pittsburgh last season, finishing the season with a 14-10, 3.88 mark with 201.2 IP, a career-high. Gorzelanny threw 148+ in 2004, 135+ in 2005, and 161+ in 2006 before jumping to 200 last year. Perhaps the workland is best revealed in his K/9 & BB/9 rates this year. His walks have more than doubled (3.03 to 6.34), while the strikeouts are significantly reduced (6.02 to 4.94). He's also allowed 12 HR in just 71 IP, a stark contrast from allowing just 18 in those 201 IP in 2007. He has made just 4 QS out of his 14.

LH vs. Gorzelanny (37 AB): .243/.375/.324
RH vs. Gorzelanny (244 AB): .278/.379/.513

Gorzelanny vs. New York:
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width=130>HITTER</TD><TD width=35>AB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=atBats)</TD><TD width=35>H (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=hits)</TD><TD width=35>2B (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=doubles)</TD><TD width=35>3B (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=triples)</TD><TD width=35>HR (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=homeRuns)</TD><TD width=35>RBI (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=RBIs)</TD><TD width=35>BB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=walks)</TD><TD width=35>SO (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=strikeouts)</TD><TD width=50>BA (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=avg)</TD><TD width=50>OBP (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=onBasePct)</TD><TD width=50>SLG (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=slugAvg)</TD><TD width=50>OPS (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6449&teamId=10&sort=OPS)</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Johnny Damon (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3323)</TD><TD class=sortcell>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.500</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Alex Rodriguez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3115)</TD><TD class=sortcell>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Bobby Abreu (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3537)</TD><TD class=sortcell>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Jose Molina (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4169)</TD><TD class=sortcell>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Hideki Matsui (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5372)</TD><TD class=sortcell>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.667</TD><TD>.667</TD><TD>1.667</TD><TD>2.333</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Robinson Cano (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6204)</TD><TD class=sortcell>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Andy Pettitte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3171)</TD><TD class=sortcell>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Derek Jeter (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3246)</TD><TD class=sortcell>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.750</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>1.250</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Jorge Posada (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3341)</TD><TD class=sortcell>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.667</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>1.167</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Melky Cabrera (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6347)</TD><TD class=sortcell>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.333</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left>Totals</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.222</TD><TD>.323</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.656</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Rasner vs. Pittsburgh:
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width=130> HITTER</TD><TD width=35>AB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=atBats)</TD><TD width=35>H (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=hits)</TD><TD width=35>2B (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=doubles)</TD><TD width=35>3B (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=triples)</TD><TD width=35>HR (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=homeRuns)</TD><TD width=35>RBI (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=RBIs)</TD><TD width=35>BB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=walks)</TD><TD width=35>SO (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=strikeouts)</TD><TD width=50>BA (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=avg)</TD><TD width=50>OBP (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=onBasePct)</TD><TD width=50>SLG (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=slugAvg)</TD><TD width=50>OPS (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=6422&teamId=23&sort=OPS)</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>Jason Michaels (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4653)</TD><TD class=sortcell>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>1.000</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Adam LaRoche (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5879)</TD><TD class=sortcell>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left>Totals</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Mark19

06-24-08, 12:35 PM

We could really use another righty bat up from AAA for the next week.

MunsonNY15

06-24-08, 12:35 PM

BT's quick on the draw today! And it is a welcome sight after yesterday's off day. Go Yankees!

Hit early, hit often. :D

Heidi

R.V.47

06-24-08, 12:37 PM

We could really use another righty bat up from AAA for the next week.

I guess the first name that comes to mind is Duncan, but Girardi made this mistake to often early on, going with the percentages and sittting down really good lefty hitters like Damon and Matsui. Id rather just put the best lineup out there, especially if the only real option is Duncan.

ThePost

06-24-08, 12:38 PM

I'll be there!

4bronxbombers

06-24-08, 12:38 PM

Wow....Yanks haven't been there since 1960! :eek:

YanksFan1992

06-24-08, 12:41 PM

Hopefully we can make it 8 out of 10 against the NL.

Let's go Yanks!

Bub

06-24-08, 12:45 PM

Since its inception, the Yanks have the best interleague record; the Pirates the worst. The Pirates pitching is horrible. All of this worries me.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 12:46 PM

http://www.digitalballparks.com/Pirates.html

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 12:47 PM

Get Gorzalanny to walk a few and then let's finally get some hits with RISP - get into their pen early and hopefully we can mess them up for the whole series. With Grabow (L), Marte (L) and Capps (R - but good closer, though has struggled some of late) hopefully we can get a lead on their starters or middle relief because their pen sets up fairly nicely against our lefty heavy lineup.

effdamets

06-24-08, 12:54 PM

Let's get back to basics... like scoring runners from 2nd and/or 3rd with less than two outs!

Let's Go Yankees!!!!!!!

Martini6196

06-24-08, 12:58 PM

I guess the first name that comes to mind is Duncan, but Girardi made this mistake to often early on, going with the percentages and sittting down really good lefty hitters like Damon and Matsui. Id rather just put the best lineup out there, especially if the only real option is Duncan.

Maybe Jason Lane????

yankeesnumber1

06-24-08, 12:59 PM

Let's get back to basics... like scoring runners from 2nd and/or 3rd with less than two outs!

Let's Go Yankees!!!!!!!

Exactly. The issue hasn't been getting people on base, its driving them in.

Thanks TBT as always.

Jasbro

06-24-08, 01:02 PM

Maybe Jason Lane????

Over Damon, Matsui or Giambi?

Brick Tamland

06-24-08, 01:03 PM

Would be great to start another winning streak tonight. Let's take the first game Yanks!

effdamets

06-24-08, 01:05 PM

Would be great to start another winning streak tonight. Let's take the first game Yanks!
The greatest of mottos:

Let's take it one game at a time....

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 01:05 PM

Over Damon, Matsui or Giambi?I would hope he meant as a PH off the bench. In NL parks we have a tendency to hit for the pitcher some times ;)

Martini6196

06-24-08, 01:20 PM

I would hope he meant as a PH off the bench. In NL parks we have a tendency to hit for the pitcher some times ;)

That's exactly what I meant.

Ynkcpt23

06-24-08, 01:28 PM

The greatest of mottos:

Let's take it one game at a time....

Absolutely--let's start this off with a big effort from Rasner and some quality ABs with RISP!!

Go :NY: !!

effdamets

06-24-08, 01:29 PM

Absolutely--let's start this off with a big effort from Rasner and some quality ABs with RISP!!

Go :NY: !!
And when an out is made, let's make it a productive out.

Mark19

06-24-08, 01:29 PM

If we need a pinch-hitter against one of their starters or Grabow/Marte, I could strongly consider bringing up Nick Green. He is 26 for 63 against lefties in AAA with an OPS of 1.114

Overall he's been pretty awful this season but he has somehow developed, over a few months, the ability to kill LHP.

themgmt

06-24-08, 01:35 PM

Gardner has been called up, Moeller has been DFA'd

Robertson has been called up, Traber has been DFA'd

I made all the obvious moves, Cashman has been DFA'd

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 01:39 PM

Gardner has been called up, Moeller has been DFA'd

Robertson has been called up, Traber has been DFA'd

Please tell me both of these are for real.

effdamets

06-24-08, 01:39 PM

Please tell me both of these are for real.
Just read the last line of the post.

ucfjon

06-24-08, 02:28 PM

Justin Christian has been called up, according to the NY Post.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 02:31 PM

The New York Post is wrong half the time, but if true, it's a pleasant surprise. He's put up great numbers this year too and for him it's probably his last shot to show he can be a decent major leaguer. Either way he's a good pinch runner option. Nearly as fast as Gardner.

effdamets

06-24-08, 02:32 PM

Justin Christian has been called up, according to the NY Post.
link?

webassign

06-24-08, 02:36 PM

Justin Christian has been called up, according to the NY Post.
who the hell is that?

webassign

06-24-08, 02:39 PM

link?
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/yankees/

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 02:44 PM

I should be feeling good about this series....but I'm not...at all.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 02:46 PM

Justin Christian career stats:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Justin-Christian.shtml

Just got to AAA last season. 28 year old RH hitter.

NYIndian2005

06-24-08, 02:47 PM

I should be feeling good about this series....but I'm not...at all.

If the offense shows up we win. But whether they show up is anybody's guess.

bigwampum

06-24-08, 02:48 PM

Justin Christian career stats:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Justin-Christian.shtml

Just got to AAA last season. 28 year old RH hitter.

So... what has this guy done to deserve a promotion?

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 02:56 PM

He's raked at AAA this year, but that's not why he's up. He's up because he's probably the 2nd fastest runner in our organization.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 02:58 PM

YANKEES
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cabo 2B
Christian LF

Rasner RHP

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 02:59 PM

Never heard of Cabo at 2b

Mark19

06-24-08, 03:01 PM

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

Eech, Damon and Matsui both have OPS vs. LHP over .800

Melky is at .630

I would have preferred an OF of Christian-Damon-Abreu but what can ya do?

bigwampum

06-24-08, 03:02 PM

He's raked at AAA this year, but that's not why he's up. He's up because he's probably the 2nd fastest runner in our organization.

.275/.331/.416?

webassign

06-24-08, 03:02 PM

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/
lol, already getting the start in left. I agree that Melky should have his butt on the bench for a bit.

.275/.331/.416?
lol

ucfjon

06-24-08, 03:02 PM

I should be feeling good about this series....but I'm not...at all.

Facing 3 lefties makes me nervous, but hopefully we can take 2 out of 3 and gain a game or two on the Sox

hardrain

06-24-08, 03:05 PM

Never heard of Cabo at 2b

It's amazing -- Interested Reader seems to have a typo in every single line-up post.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:05 PM

.275/.331/.416?

....:eek:

Sorry, I haven't looked at his numbers for a while... last time I did they were almost as good as Gardner's.

hardrain

06-24-08, 03:06 PM

Gardner's being a lefty is really holding him back at the present time.

bigwampum

06-24-08, 03:09 PM

....:eek:

Sorry, I haven't looked at his numbers for a while... last time I did they were almost as good as Gardner's.

No worries. Here's hoping he kicks all kinds of ass.

-tz

06-24-08, 03:14 PM

So... what has this guy done to deserve a promotion?Bats right-handed? :dunno:

AcidLake

06-24-08, 03:15 PM

Did you get the stat from thebaseballcube, that might be his old stat

HERE'S his stat as of now from milb.com:

.309/.360/.455/.815

Along with 18 steals

YASS

06-24-08, 03:17 PM

Did you get the stat from thebaseballcube, that might be his old stat

HERE'S his stat as of now from milb.com:

.309/.360/.455/.815

Along with 18 steals
He's actually got a better stolen base percentage than Brett Gardner.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 03:19 PM

This is Justin Christian's Scranton profile:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Justin%20Christian&pos=&sid=t531&t=p_pbp&pid=451629

.309/.360/.455 so far.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:20 PM

Oh, good. I knew I wasn't completely insane.

JOBA RULES

06-24-08, 03:20 PM

where the hell is brett gardner!?!?!?!.....

themgmt

06-24-08, 03:21 PM

.275/.331/.416?

uhhh

.309/.360/.455

AcidLake

06-24-08, 03:21 PM

I guess Christian got the chance first because of his age: 28

.275/.331/.416?

THIS is the reason why I never check BaseballCube for recent stats

bigwampum

06-24-08, 03:22 PM

This is Justin Christian's Scranton profile:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Justin%20Christian&pos=&sid=t531&t=p_pbp&pid=451629

.309/.360/.455 so far.

Ah, ok. That's much better.

EDIT: Yeah, the numbers were from baseballcube.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 03:24 PM

I guess Christian got the chance first because of his age: 28

I think the company line has been pretty consistent. Both Girardi & Cashman have repeatedly stated that whomever is producing best at Scranton will get the call.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:25 PM

It's a tough call on who's doing better between Christian or Gardner, but they made the right move bringing up Christian. He's already 28 and we won't hurt his development by putting him on the bench.

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 03:27 PM

I think the company line has been pretty consistent. Both Girardi & Cashman have repeatedly stated that whomever is producing best at Scranton will get the call.

David Robertson just texted me to tell you and Latroy Hawkins "screw you"

themgmt

06-24-08, 03:28 PM

Carson is/was also hitting very well. Neither of the three have power, but Carson doesn't have the speed either.

I'd be a little ticked if I were Gardner. I think there is definitely something up, either Christian might be on the move, or Gardner might be on the move. Or Cashman just likes snubbing Gardner

YASS

06-24-08, 03:29 PM

What's Christian's story? He was in the GCL as a 24 year old -- why such a late start?

webassign

06-24-08, 03:30 PM

teknetic

06-24-08, 03:32 PM

We have an actual basestealing threat on this team? is that allowed?

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 03:32 PM

I should be feeling good about this series....but I'm not...at all.I have a great feeling about this series. I smell a sweep. In their last 9 games they've given up 8 or more runs in 6 of them. I think this is just what the Yanks need to reawaken the bats after Cincy.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:33 PM

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:34 PM

I have a great feeling about this series. I smell a sweep. In their last 9 games they've given up 8 or more runs in 6 of them. I think this is just what the Yanks need to reawaken the bats after Cincy.

Uh... I don't feel good about that at all. That just means they're due to have a stretch of games where their starters have a combined 1.50 ERA or something.

AcidLake

06-24-08, 03:35 PM

What's Christian's story? He was in the GCL as a 24 year old -- why such a late start?
He was an Indy leaguer. I don't think he was drafted out of college either

YASS

06-24-08, 03:38 PM

He was an Indy leaguer. I don't think he was drafted out of college either
Still very strange for an Indy leaguer to impress the Yankees so much that they wanted to sign him but not enough for them to place him in full season ball upon signing.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 03:38 PM

Uh... I don't feel good about that at all. That just means they're due to have a stretch of games where their starters have a combined 1.50 ERA or something.considering they are 30th in team ERA, I'm thinking no. I love this series. if we don't win at least 2-3 there is no excuse.

Ynkcpt23

06-24-08, 03:40 PM

considering they are 30th in team ERA, I'm thinking no. I love this series. if we don't win at least 2-3 there is no excuse.

I'm cautiously sharing your optimism. We need to dominate the Pirates-they are a team we should consistently drub.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 03:40 PM

If they brought up Christian over Gardner just because he's a righty that would be incredibly stupid considering his OPS against lefties is 792 compared to 823 against righties. While Gardner's OPS against lefties is 958.

The question to me is why sit Damon & Matsui after a day off? They're both over .300 BA against LHP, and OPS between 8-900.

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 03:42 PM

This team can hit average pitching and Rasner is definitely average or below average. We may score 6 tonight, but so may the Pirates.

YanksFan1992

06-24-08, 03:42 PM

Only 11 pitchers left on the roster. :eek:

I have to assume that Moeller will be sent down for Ponson or another starter on Thursday.

YASS

06-24-08, 03:43 PM

The question to me is why sit Damon & Matsui after a day off? They're both over .300 BA against LHP, and OPS between 8-900.
They're both banged up, no?

Mark19

06-24-08, 03:43 PM

The question to me is why sit Damon & Matsui after a day off? They're both over .300 BA against LHP, and OPS between 8-900.

Apparently Matsui's knee is a little tender and they don't want him in the field. Also, Damon's foot got bruised on Sunday.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 03:44 PM

I'm cautiously sharing your optimism. We need to dominate the Pirates-they are a team we should consistently drub.
I'm throwing caution to the wind. The Yanks will start domianting all competition - starting with the AAAA Pirates.

The question to me is why sit Damon & Matsui after a day off? They're both over .300 BA against LHP, and OPS between 8-900.

With Matsui's knee I can understand that, he may get more than a few of the 6 NL park games off. Damon makes no sense at all to me unless he want's Melky's D, the park is pretty spacious in left center if I rememeber right.

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 03:45 PM

Apparently Matsui's knee is a little tender and they don't want him in the field. Also, Damon's foot got bruised on Sunday.

It was only a matter of time until the nagging injuries hit Damon.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 03:46 PM

Also, Damon's foot got bruised on Sunday.

Ah, I did not know that (didn't see the game). Thanks.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 03:46 PM

This team can hit average pitching and Rasner is definitely average or below average. We may score 6 tonight, but so may the Pirates.When has Rasner's ERA+ ever been below 100? Until that day comes I'm thinking Rasner is average or above; not below.:mad:

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 03:48 PM

When has Rasner's ERA+ ever been below 100? Until that day comes I'm thinking Rasner is average or above; not below.:mad:

That day will come within the next 6 weeks old pal. Beware the Ides of August.

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 03:48 PM

Rasner doesn't look like a smoke & mirrors pitcher to me. He has great command and some pretty good offspeed stuff.

TheBamTino24

06-24-08, 03:49 PM

Rasner doesn't look like a smoke & mirrors pitcher to me. He has great command and some pretty good offspeed stuff.

I agree. And he's not a dramatic flyball pitcher either or have a crazy BABIP. Even with that great start I never saw anything that screamed out, "Stat correction coming!" for example.

-tz

06-24-08, 03:51 PM

Uh... I don't feel good about that at all. That just means they're due to have a stretch of games where their starters have a combined 1.50 ERA or something.Yup, and the Yankees are just the team to help 'em along.

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 03:52 PM

I have little faith in Rasner and I hope he proves me wrong. Again and again.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 04:04 PM

That day will come within the next 6 weeks old pal. Beware the Ides of August.His minor league numbers are pretty solid and his MLB WHIP is often below league average with the expection of 2007. His K-rate is lower than I like but he's make up for it with a very low BB rate. I think he'll have the occasional game like in Oakland where he gives up a lot of hits, but I think those will be the exception rather than the rule. I'm liking him more and more.

themgmt

06-24-08, 04:05 PM

The Pirates trotting out 3 left handed starters is what's up.

Gardner hits lefties well

hardrain

06-24-08, 04:05 PM

where the hell is brett gardner!?!?!?!.....

he's a lefty -- the Bucs are starting 3 lefties - that's the real reason.

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 04:06 PM

His minor league numbers are pretty solid and his MLB WHIP is often below league average with the expection of 2007. His K-rate is lower than I like but he's make up for it with a very low BB rate. I think he'll have the occasional game like in Oakland where he gives up a lot of hits, but I think those will be the exception rather than the rule. I'm liking him more and more.

I am not sure why, but the game in Oakland left a bitter taste in my mouth. His last game, even though he went 5IP with only 2ER was ugly too. I just hope he can maintain a sub 4.50 ERA.

sweet_lou_14

06-24-08, 04:09 PM

Would be great to start another winning streak tonight. Let's take the first game Yanks!

It's impossible for them to start a winning streak tonight. They won their last game. :D

But let's keep it going!

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 04:09 PM

I am not sure why, but the game in Oakland left a bitter taste in my mouth. His last game, even though he went 5IP with only 2ER was ugly too. I just hope he can maintain a sub 4.50 ERA.

He reminds me a lot of a Paul Byrd type pitcher - not flashy but throws strikes. Oh and I was sitting near a bunch of obnoxious drunk A's fan while Rasner was getting pounded, you don't need to tell me about bad tastes. Like I said there will be games he's hittable. He's by no means an ace and unlikely to every be one but I think he is and can continue to be a competent MLB starter posting league average or better results.

YASS

06-24-08, 04:10 PM

Gardner hits lefties well
In 80 at-bats this year (and all his home runs have come against lefties, too).

But what do his historical splits look like?

Cheesyhoboe

06-24-08, 04:15 PM

He reminds me a lot of a Paul Byrd type pitcher - not flashy but throws strikes. Oh and I was sitting near a bunch of obnoxious drunk A's fan while Rasner was getting pounded, you don't need to tell me about bad tastes. Like I said there will be games he's hittable. He's by no means an ace and unlikely to every be one but I think he is and can continue to be a competent MLB starter posting league average or better results.

OK, is it just me or has every pitcher who throws a high 80s-low 90s fastball with good command become a Paul Byrd-type pitcher?

Brick Tamland

06-24-08, 04:19 PM

It's impossible for them to start a winning streak tonight. They won their last game. :D

But let's keep it going!

Good call. But the streak only begins when they string at least two games together...semantics...let's go Yanks!

Yankees13

06-24-08, 04:21 PM

Never heard of Cabo at 2b
Whoever he is must be an improvement over Cano.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 04:22 PM

OK, is it just me or has every pitcher who throws a high 80s-low 90s fastball with good command become a Paul Byrd-type pitcher?I guess he is the standard for "junk ball righty" how many other control righties with low K rates and lower walk rates have been as successful for as long as Byrd?

Yankees13

06-24-08, 04:26 PM

Our lineup tonight is really ugly. It's 4-5-6 hitters or bust. I hope A-Rod, Giambi, and Posada are up to the task.

YASS

06-24-08, 04:28 PM

OK, is it just me or has every pitcher who throws a high 80s-low 90s fastball with good command become a Paul Byrd-type pitcher?
Pitchers should be compared to Paul Byrd only if they have a windup reminiscent of Ray Milland's in It Happens Every Spring.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 04:33 PM

Pitchers should be compared to Paul Byrd only if they have a windup reminiscent of Ray Milland's in It Happens Every Spring.I need to put that in my netfilx queue

YASS

06-24-08, 04:34 PM

I need to put that in my netfilx queue
GREAT movie.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 04:36 PM

GREAT movie.I guess not every movie from 1949 has made it to DVD yet.:(

hardrain

06-24-08, 04:38 PM

yep - it's Traber who was sent packing

Purchased the contract of OF Justin Christian from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre; Optioned LHP Billy Traber to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre; Outrighted RHP Steven White to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

YASS

06-24-08, 04:39 PM

I guess not every movie from 1949 has made it to DVD yet.:(
Even the VHS release is an out-of-print collectible now. :(

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 05:01 PM

yep - it's Traber who was sent packing

now that is the best news I've heard all day

hardrain

06-24-08, 05:12 PM

wow. Dougie Eyechart in right tonight.

Yankee Tripper

06-24-08, 05:44 PM

So if they hit for Christian is Meat our emergency out fielder?

marshcat

06-24-08, 05:56 PM

So if
they hit for Christian is Meat our emergency out fielder?

Probably Rivera

THEBOSS84

06-24-08, 07:34 PM

This team can hit average pitching and Rasner is definitely average or below average. We may score 6 tonight, but so may the Pirates.

I was half right so far.

NYIndian2005

06-24-08, 07:38 PM

If the offense shows up we win. But whether they show up is anybody's guess.

AWOL so far.