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Metroidman
06-06-08, 02:30 PM
Gross Yankees
NYKforever
06-06-08, 02:30 PM
Chad Gross- 6'6"!!!
jeter62375
06-06-08, 02:31 PM
sox grab another flier in matt marquis
LecheCaberera2826
06-06-08, 02:32 PM
sox grab another flier in matt marquis
I hate my life. i hate my life. i hate my life.
go to vandy!!!!!!
I hate my life. i hate my life. i hate my life.
go to vandy!!!!!!you're gonna be alright.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 02:33 PM
Law..
BL (NYC): The token Gerrit Cole question...Obviously does not have the pitchability of Porcello or the command of Hughes, but what is your overall take on Cole's future? #1 Starter or Closer.. I'm guessing it's still far too unclear?
Keith Law: (3:24 PM ET ) For now, #1 starter. Closer is like a fallback option.
Posada_20
06-06-08, 02:33 PM
sox grab another flier in matt marquis
I'm gonna be pissed if they get him signed.
NYKforever
06-06-08, 02:34 PM
The Yankees better be active in International signings.
johnnerr
06-06-08, 02:34 PM
So the Sox have taken Meyer, Oropesa and Marquis.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 02:35 PM
Theres a reason these guys are lasting. They wont sign
LecheCaberera2826
06-06-08, 02:36 PM
you're gonna be alright.
Seriously though all i wanted was Marquis. If the sox sign him it will just be another reason for me to hate them.
i don't like this draft too much. call me hypocritical but i'm pissed off right now.
ARoDfan4life
06-06-08, 02:37 PM
jesus Lasorda has to be doing this on purpose
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 02:38 PM
Law..
ANTHONY (NYC): Any players besides Cole u like in the yankees draft?
Keith Law: (3:35 PM ET ) Adams was a favorite of mine on the Cape who had a bad spring. Bittle's worth a shot, probably won't work in the majors, but why not try it? Lassiter had the BP of his life at AFLAC, but area guys down there all told me I got an inaccurate picture of him - curious if the Yanks share my opinion a little. On the whole, though, not a lot of shooting for the moon this year.
ARoDfan4life
06-06-08, 02:40 PM
the Mets even have latino reps. picking up the phone
JavyVazquezIsSick
06-06-08, 02:40 PM
Just get me Inoa.
Seriously though all i wanted was Marquis. If the sox sign him it will just be another reason for me to hate them.
i don't like this draft too much. call me hypocritical but i'm pissed off right now.You're gonna be alright. Really.
Yanks Take: Michael Jones OF Az ST
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 02:41 PM
Niiiiiice, from noMaas:
27th Round pick, Garrison Lassiter: major signability case
June 6th, 2008
Well, the Yanks finally stopped with the boring picks and jumped into the signability game. In the 26th round they took Indiana prep LHP, Blake Monar, who doesn’t throw hard but has very good breaking stuff. Monar could prove to be a difficult sign.
They followed that selection up with Garrison Lassiter (6′3″, 195 lbs), whom BA calls North Carolina’s top HS prospect. He’s a LHB, plays SS, and is considered a bit raw.
UNC head coach Mike Fox had this to say about Lassiter:
“Garrison is a very talented shortstop. He has the ability to be a special player. He is equally impressive offensively and defensively. He handles the bat well and possesses good power for a middle infielder. We also love his demeanor, makeup and his commitment to the game.”
Following that up with his PerfectGame profile:
Garrison Lassiter is a 2008 SS/3B/OF with a 6′3”, 195 lb. frame from High Point, NC who attends West Forsyth HS. Tall athletic build, body projects well, solid hitting mechanics, easy swing, quick hands, good bat speed, stays inside the ball, turns on the ball easily, strong infield actions, quick hands, good transfer and release, raw arm strength, runs well, strong student, highest-level prospect with early round draft potential.
It will be very interesting to see how the Yanks proceed here. Regardless this is a bigtime signability case.
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/
ARoDfan4life
06-06-08, 02:41 PM
Just get me Inoa.
that better be done
Kulish29
06-06-08, 02:42 PM
Mike Jones, OF, ASU
(Who?)
johnnerr
06-06-08, 02:42 PM
Time to practice with my nephew. Good luck Yankees and have a great day everyone. Thanks for the convos!
Time to practice with my nephew. Good luck Yankees and have a great day everyone. Thanks for the convos!Have fun with your Nephew!
LecheCaberera2826
06-06-08, 02:49 PM
Mike Jones, OF, ASU
(Who?)
MIKE JONES!!!! this is officially my favorite player we've drafted just because of his name hahahaa. imagine if he gets to the majors.
Fans: WHO? MIKE JONES
ben mcmahan. c. high school.
Yanks Take: Ben McMahon C Bishop Moore School FL
Yanks21
06-06-08, 02:55 PM
Ben McMahon is a signability pick. One of the top prep players in Florida. Committed to Florida...
has nick maronde been taken yet?
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 02:57 PM
I think we should have taken fliers on guys such as Meyer, Gray, Marquis etc.
Other teams have, why not u$?
ShannonSG
06-06-08, 02:58 PM
Ben McMahon is a signability pick. One of the top prep players in Florida. Committed to Florida...
Yep. I wouldn't mind if the Yanks signed him, but I really don't see it happening. He'll be coming here to Gainesville.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 02:58 PM
I think we should have taken fliers on guys such as Meyer, Gray, Marquis etc.
Other teams have, why not u$?
Because I think the Yankees learned from last season that guys like that just wont sign. So lets not waste picks on unsignable guys.
Yanks21
06-06-08, 02:59 PM
has nick maronde been taken yet?
Not yet...
I think we should have taken fliers on guys such as Meyer, Gray, Marquis etc.
Other teams have, why not u$?Maybe we didn't see the value. Maybe we spend so much on scouting that we are able to find comparable or better players for less.
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 03:01 PM
I think we should have taken fliers on guys such as Meyer, Gray, Marquis etc.
Other teams have, why not u$?
There are many, many, many signability guys. Just because they aren't the sexy names doesn't mean they're not elite talent.
siddiqi
06-06-08, 03:01 PM
Maybe we didn't see the value. Maybe we spend so much on scouting that we are able to find comparable or better players for less.
I trust my ability to scout based on scouting reports from Baseball America and stuff I read from the internet. Looking at players is so 20th century
ARoDfan4life
06-06-08, 03:01 PM
has nick maronde been taken yet?
looks like college is in his future
ShannonSG
06-06-08, 03:02 PM
has nick maronde been taken yet?
Nope, and for the same reason as McMahon wasn't taken until just now - signability. He's committed to Florida too and they both plan on being here in the fall.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 03:03 PM
I trust my ability to scout based on scouting reports from Baseball America and stuff I read from the internet. Looking at players is so 20th century
Hysterical. So Funny.
Yanks Take: Spencer Lucien 2b Princeton
albo4lyfe
06-06-08, 03:04 PM
With the limited signability picks, either the Yanks don't like this draft all that much or they intend to go big in LA.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 03:04 PM
This is getting to be garbage time. None of us will know these names for the most part.
now we take spence lucian. 2nd baseman from princeton.
With the limited signability picks, either the Yanks don't like this draft all that much or they intend to go big in LA.It's two separate budgets.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 03:06 PM
Everyone said this draft wasn't gonna be that good. So lets just go with a few good picks and look forward to next year
I cant wait till Brackman/Sanchez and Cole are pitching.
JavyVazquezIsSick
06-06-08, 03:06 PM
With the limited signability picks, either the Yanks don't like this draft all that much or they intend to go big in LA.
Big in LA?
TheMick@ND
06-06-08, 03:07 PM
It's two separate budgets.
I don't really see why that matters, it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't adjust the two separate budgets based upon where they felt the best talent was no?
albo4lyfe
06-06-08, 03:08 PM
Big in LA?
Latin America.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 03:13 PM
Another Lefty Pitcher
Andrew Suiter
I don't really see why that matters, it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't adjust the two separate budgets based upon where they felt the best talent was no?They may have, but I think when they are doing the draft they are trying to hit a homerun there, then later when Cash and some other execs are doing IFA they're trying to homer there. I don't think while they are doing the draft they are looking to blow things off till IFA. They are doing their best.
Yankees Take: Andrew Sueter LHP
Rye had an RBI single his last time up.
Metroidman
06-06-08, 03:18 PM
Couldn't find much on Suiter except this
http://twins.scout.com/a.z?s=292&p=2&c=327665
Finally, Andy Suiter, a left-handed pitcher out of Menlo High School is another four-year varsity letterwinner. In 2003, he went 12-0 and struck out a school record 146 batters in 88 innings while leading his team to the Central Coast Section Division III championship. He also established a school record for strikeouts in a game with 18 and tied the record for wins a season. As a junior in 2004, Suitor was named all-state, All-Central Coast, all-county and was selected as the Peninsula Athletic League Player of the Year by the San Jose Mercury News. He has been noted as the 14th best left-handed pitcher in the country by Perfect Game USA and TeamOne Baseball. In addition to his baseball accolades, Suiter is also a water polo standout and has been honored by the Mercury News and the Central Coast Section. At UCLA, however, the four-year honor student, will focus solely on baseball.
"Suiter is a guy that can really pitch - he throws three pitches for strikes," Savage said. "He has a plus fastball along with a great changeup. He's a great competitor
TheMick@ND
06-06-08, 03:19 PM
They may have, but I think when they are doing the draft they are trying to hit a homerun there, then later when Cash and some other execs are doing IFA they're trying to homer there. I don't think while they are doing the draft they are looking to blow things off till IFA. They are doing their best.
Yankees Take: Andrew Sueter LHP
Ahh, I see what you're saying now.
albo4lyfe
06-06-08, 03:19 PM
It's two separate budgets.
But if the Yanks think that the talent this year in LA is considerably better than the States(and the talent in LA this year is top notch) then don't you think they'd be more willing to spend more in LA than the draft. And I'm not sure that there is a budget for the draft and another for LA.
ArodMVP217
06-06-08, 03:19 PM
Mike Jones was a two sport athlete for the ASU Sun Devils (wideout for football). started only 15 of 47 games and hit 5/45(.189) more bb's than hits, 10(.371obp) stole 3/4; this is an upside pick
Metroidman
06-06-08, 03:22 PM
Trying to find out how hard Suitor throws
So far all I get is that he K's insane amounts of people/
tom baldridge. rf. another college sr.
But if the Yanks think that the talent this year in LA is considerably better than the States(and the talent in LA this year is top notch) then don't you think they'd be more willing to spend more in LA than the draft. And I'm not sure that there is a budget for the draft and another for LA.In either case they have hard and fast valuations of these kids. Frankly the only time they don't get kids they want is if they think they're not worth the coin they're asking. That's true of the signability kids and the IFA's. I think we're seeing in this year's choice in signability kids a reflection of the valuation the Yanks hold for some of the signability kids they didn't horde. They might not be as high on them as BA is, but were high on Mikey O'Brien and some of the lesser known high ceiling kids they took.
Also, they may be paying a higher than lately price for picking 28th... ie the big name kids they might have taken were gone when their picks came up.
Yankees Take: Tommy Baldridge RF from Coastal Carolina.
Kulish29
06-06-08, 03:29 PM
Wow. A kid was just selected from the high school I went to.
Kulish29
06-06-08, 03:31 PM
One of these times, Lasorda's gonna tell us the kids likes and dislikes as well.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 03:33 PM
is there anyway someone can divide these picks into fillers vs good potential guys for idiots like me?
Yankees Take: Brad Rulon RHP GA Tech
yanks take brad ruton. rhp. another college sr.
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 03:34 PM
Brad Rudon RHP georgia tech
seems like most of these guys are just filler.
Yanks21
06-06-08, 03:35 PM
Brad Rulon from Georgia Tech...
From BA:
"Senior righthander Brad Rulon led the Yellow Jackets staff in appearances this year and throws a fastball in the upper 80s and a plus curveball that he uses to put hitters away."
NYKforever
06-06-08, 03:36 PM
Brad Rulon from Georgia Tech...
From BA:
"Senior righthander Brad Rulon led the Yellow Jackets staff in appearances this year and throws a fastball in the upper 80s and a plus curveball that he uses to put hitters away."
Exciting.
if nick maronde goes undrafted (highly unlikely). does he become a free agent?
The Yankee Captain
06-06-08, 03:37 PM
Yanks Take: Michael Lyon 3B Northeastern.
ARod, watch your back.
Jace on this site is one of the rare breed, willing to look at things fairly from both sides. Few and far between though.
Haha, sorry to disappoint, but I'm a Yankee fan. I'll have to act a little more biased
Yanks21
06-06-08, 03:39 PM
Cardinals just took Scott Boras' kid...Ass kissers...
kongull
06-06-08, 03:40 PM
Hi, my name is Brad Rudon RHP from Ga Tech and I'm an organizational filler. :D
Yanks21
06-06-08, 03:40 PM
if nick maronde goes undrafted (highly unlikely). does he become a free agent?
No...He becomes draft eligible in 3 years if he attends a 4 year college, or next year if he attends a JUCO. He's going to Florida, so look for him again in 3 years...
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 03:41 PM
when it's over, what percentage of these guys would be good potential guys vs fillers?
No...He becomes draft eligible in 3 years if he attends a 4 year college, or next year if he attends a JUCO. He's going to Florida, so look for him again in 3 years...
thanks.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
06-06-08, 03:42 PM
Cardinals just took Scott Boras' kid...Ass kissers...
worth a shot. I wonder who represents him.
Yanks Take: Andy Shive RHP from Azusa Pacific?
andrew shive. rhp (surprise!) college sr. (surprise!)
Yanks21
06-06-08, 03:44 PM
worth a shot. I wonder who represents him.
Shane Boras is actually a legit prospect. He's going to play college ball at USC. I can just imagine having to deal with his agent... ;)
Aviezer
06-06-08, 03:47 PM
Don't bring religion into posts
c'mon were not so pc that you have too watch everything you say
if i insult osama am i going to get ripped too
lets have some common sense
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 03:48 PM
seems like the big/Good potential guys are:
1. Gerrit Cole--RHP
2. Bleich--LHP
3. Bittle--RHP
4. Corban--ss
5. Adams-2b
6. Smith--lf/1b
7. Marshall--RHP
8. Mike O'brien--RHP
9. Richardson--RHP
10. Braboy--rhp
11. Lassiter--ss
12. Luke Greinke--RHP
13. Ben MacMahon--C
14. DJ Mitchell--RHP
15. Dwyer--lhp
and the rest are fillers?
kongull
06-06-08, 03:49 PM
seems like the big/Good potential guys are:
1. Gerrit Cole
2. Bleich
3. Bittle
4. Corban
5. Adams
6. Smith
7. Marshall
8. Mike O'brien
9. Richardson
10. Braboy
11. Lassiter
12. Luke Greinke
13. Ben MacMahon
and the rest are fillers?
im guessing some of those guys are just fillers as well.
TheMick@ND
06-06-08, 03:49 PM
c'mon were not so pc that you have too watch everything you say
if i insult osama am i going to get ripped too
lets have some common sense
sleeping dogs...?
seems like the big/Good potential guys are:
1. Gerrit Cole
2. Bleich
3. Bittle
4. Corban
5. Adams
6. Smith
7. Marshall
8. Mike O'brien
9. Richardson
10. Braboy
11. Lassiter
12. Luke Greinke
13. Ben MacMahon
and the rest are fillers?I don't think you can assume that.
Yanks21
06-06-08, 03:50 PM
These were the rounds when teams would take a flier on draft and follows. It's too bad they did away with that system...
Additionally, these are the rounds when teams take "favor" picks (a scout's son, for example)...
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 03:51 PM
I don't think you can assume that.
cant assume that the rest are just fillers? i guess you're right but early on only those i've listed seem to be very interesting.
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-06-08, 03:52 PM
DJ Mitchell wouldn't be considered filler by any means.
cant assume that the rest are just fillers? i guess you're right but early on only those i've listed seem to be very interesting.I don't think you can assume the rest is just filler. The Yanks have had an army of scouts working on this draft for a very long time. There could be major college sleepers all over the place. It could turn out that the Yanks saw value in college seniors who might have been overlooked elsewhere. It's too soon to tell. The Yanks don't have as man organizational kids as they used to. More and more they are putting together a supercompetitive farm, and I doubt they took two days off from that mission this week.
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 03:59 PM
Whoa. This is REALLY interesting...
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=37
It's a longer entry so I won't paste it all, but definitely check out that link. Suiter - who knew?
Yanks Take: Chris Dwyer LHP Salisbury School/
Metroidman
06-06-08, 04:07 PM
Whoa. This is REALLY interesting...
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=37
It's a longer entry so I won't paste it all, but definitely check out that link. Suiter - who knew?
Its still an entry
More signability, and the curious case of Andy Suiter (http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=37)
<SMALL>June 6th, 2008 <!-- by Lane Meyer --></SMALL>
The Yankees took some more intriguing talent in the 29th and 30th rounds respectively, drafting uber-athlete Mike Jones (who?), an OF from Arizona State, and Ben McMahon, a prep catcher with a commtiment to the University of Florida.
Jones plays football for ASU, and is listed at 6′4″, 210 lbs. He’s from the athletics hotbed of Sugarland, Texas and lists Ken Griffey, Jr. (http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/jones_mike00.html) as his favorite athlete. This pick is a boom or bust pick, with Jones being an incredible athlete the Yankees hope to see reach his potential.
McMahon is a defense-oriented catcher with a surprising bat whose Florida commit makes him a very difficult signing. BA has him as the #111 best prospect in the nation, saying that he’s a natural leader on the field. This is going to be one of the most difficult signings the Yankees have before them.
In the 32nd round, though, the Yankees drafted Andrew Suiter, a LHP from the state of California. What makes Suiter’s selection so intriguing is that he was rated as the 136th best prospect in California coming out of Menlo HS in 2005, having a commitment to UCLA. He redhirted his freshman year in 2006, didn’t pitch at all except one exhibition game in 2007, and then transferred to UC-Davis in 2008.
He’s a DES, listed at 6′3″, 210 lbs. It seems that in 2008 Suiter has been working in relief (http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=8186):
Suiter made 28 appearances out of the bullpen and recorded a 6-2 mark with a 4.19 ERA. One of those wins came against Stanford on April 30 in Davis as the Aggies rallied late and Suiter threw 1 1/3 scoreless innings. He’s tied for second on the team in wins, and owns the lowest opponents batting average (.233). Suiter has 45 strikeouts in 38 2-3 innings.
He played in the Northwoods League, a summer woodbat league for collegiate ballplayers, and his bio for the St. Cloud River Bats (http://www.riverbats.com/rosterDetail.php?id=61) had this to say:
Known for great raw velocity which helped him become a prep superstar. He attended Menlo High School, where he set a school record for 433 strikeouts in his career including a school record 146 in his junior campaign.
And some more info (http://www.sfchroniclemarketplace.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2004/04/30/PNG7U6BP7L1.DTL) on his high school days:
Sure, Serra’s Chuck Lofgren has gotten the bulk of the attention this spring — after all, he’s expected to go in the first round of June’s amateur baseball draft — but it’s Menlo School junior Andy Suiter who has the unblemished start. Suiter has led his Knights to the top of the Peninsula Athletic League’s Lake Division with a three-game lead over second-place Sequoia with just six games to go.
“He’s the real deal,” Menlo coach Craig Schoof said. “(He’s) still growing, he’s getting bigger. The tops we’ve had him is 89 (an 89 mph fastball) on the (radar) gun.”
Suiter served notice early in the PAL season that he was a force to be reckoned with. On March 24, he no-hit South San Francisco, striking out 18 hitters (out of 21 possible outs) in a 17-0 victory. He walked two batters, and South San Francisco managed to get just three balls in play — a fly out and two groundouts.
It’s been pretty much the same since then. Suiter has yet to allow an earned run in PAL play. On April 20, he threw a five-hit shutout in a 3-0 win over Sequoia, striking out 12. That improved the Knights to 15-5 on the year, 9-0 in the PAL. Sequoia is in second at 7-11, 6-3.
After that game, Suiter’s ERA stood at 0.46 for the year, with 104 strikeouts in 61 innings against 24 walks. He’s allowed only 25 hits, which translates into fewer than three per seven-inning game.
GrouchoNYY
06-06-08, 04:10 PM
Any idea why MLB tracker is ignoring this pick.
ArodMVP217
06-06-08, 04:11 PM
idk, did we drop out?
they just cut off Lasorda!
Metroidman
06-06-08, 04:12 PM
Seems like we dropped out
jerez23
06-06-08, 04:13 PM
Any idea why MLB tracker is ignoring this pick.
Did the Yanks stop picking?
Metroidman
06-06-08, 04:14 PM
No wait we're supposed to pick in a few seconds. Lets see if it updates for us.
Yanks21
06-06-08, 04:14 PM
Seems like we dropped out
No they didn't, they took Chris Dwyer from the Salisbury School in Connecticut...
Dwyer is a signability pick. Clemson recruit...
Yanks Take: Justin Harper RHP
Metroidman
06-06-08, 04:16 PM
haha they skipped over a pick for us
We went from Shive to Harper
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 04:17 PM
What round was Dwyer
IrishYankee
06-06-08, 04:17 PM
Haha, sorry to disappoint, but I'm a Yankee fan. I'll have to act a little more biased
Really? I just thought with your knowledge of RedSox guys you were. Maybe all the god ones are on our side!!:D
GrouchoNYY
06-06-08, 04:17 PM
Dwyer is absent on the tracker
Aviezer
06-06-08, 04:18 PM
Who is left that we should be interested in.
What round was Dwyer36th round.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 04:23 PM
I don't think you can assume the rest is just filler. The Yanks have had an army of scouts working on this draft for a very long time. There could be major college sleepers all over the place. It could turn out that the Yanks saw value in college seniors who might have been overlooked elsewhere. It's too soon to tell. The Yanks don't have as man organizational kids as they used to. More and more they are putting together a supercompetitive farm, and I doubt they took two days off from that mission this week.
understandable. just that on first look the ones i've listed seem the Most interesting. not that the others are terrible.
Aviezer
06-06-08, 04:24 PM
cossart gone
Yankees Take: Clayton Caulfield from College of Charleston
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 04:26 PM
Yankees Take: Clayton Kaufield from Coastal Carolina?
College of Charleston and i think a C not K
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 04:28 PM
who is this dwyer and have we found something interesting in him?
Aviezer
06-06-08, 04:28 PM
Pitt picks a guy with no school
jerez23
06-06-08, 04:29 PM
Who is left that we should be interested in.
Nick Maronde
Austin Dicharry
Jarrod McKinney
Taylor Hightower
Dwyer is a clemson commit and we'll have to pry him away.
Caulfield has good size and he's from Canada.
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 04:32 PM
Nick Maronde
Austin Dicharry
Jarrod McKinney
Taylor Hightower
What about Quenton Miller?!?!
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 04:34 PM
Dwyer is a clemson commit and we'll have to pry him away.
Caulfield has good size and he's from Canada.
what's the word on dwyer's stuff?
jerez23
06-06-08, 04:34 PM
What about Quenton Miller?!?!
I thought he got picked by Pitt
Yankees Take: Eric Lovett Mt. Olive College
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 04:35 PM
I thought he got picked by Pitt
I don't know, I was legitimately asking.
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 04:35 PM
we still need a guy from nj
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=38
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 04:36 PM
what's the word on dwyer's stuff?
NoMaas' draft blog has him as the second best player they've taken in the draft.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 04:36 PM
Whoa check this out on Dwyer:
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=38
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 04:38 PM
Damn. I really want them to sign him now...
philleotardo
06-06-08, 04:39 PM
Pitt picks a guy with no schoolToe Nash?
JeffWeaverFan
06-06-08, 04:40 PM
I've been at work all day. Did we draft anyone noteworthy?
I've been at work all day. Did we draft anyone noteworthy?take a look over at the NoMaas blog, he's been on most of the interesting picks - but not all of them.
Yankees Take: Sam Mende Clearwater Center Catholic SS
JeffWeaverFan
06-06-08, 04:44 PM
take a look over at the NoMaas blog, he's been on most of the interesting picks - but not all of them.
Sounds good, thanks.
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 04:44 PM
Samuel Mende- SS Clearwater Catholic HS
we still need a guy from nj
doesn't the pitcher that we took from princeton count?
Aviezer
06-06-08, 04:46 PM
Samuel Mende- SS Clearwater Catholic HS
number 40 mi in the country by pg
number 220 hs by ba
comitted to usf.
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 04:47 PM
doesn't the pitcher that we took from princeton count?
maybe but i'd still like a guy who lived in nj rather than go to school there
Yanks Take: Michael Stokes form Tustin HS
we have taken a lot of California kids.
mykal stokes. cf. tustin high school
ShannonSG
06-06-08, 04:58 PM
Random observations:
The Angels sure love their Gator relief pitchers. Josh Edmondson is the third in recent memory (last year was David Hurst, before that was Darren O'Day).
The Nats take two Gainesville-area guys in consecutive picks, John Lambert from Santa Fe CC and Avery Barnes from UF.
bmxstreetrider86
06-06-08, 05:01 PM
just got back in:
did harold martinez or adam smith get drafted?
Snatch Catch
06-06-08, 05:02 PM
just got back in:
did harold martinez or adam smith get drafted?
Yanks scored big in the 36th.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 05:03 PM
just got back in:
did harold martinez or adam smith get drafted?
Martinez went, I think to Texas
yanks take clint priesendorfer. lhp.
Yanks Take: Clint Pricendorfer LHP
bmxstreetrider86
06-06-08, 05:04 PM
Yanks scored big in the 36th.
with?
ShannonSG
06-06-08, 05:05 PM
Preisendorfer is an awesome name.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 05:07 PM
Preisendorfer is an awesome name.
Distant cousin of Ohlendorf I believe
ziggyosk41
06-06-08, 05:07 PM
Stinkin Law...http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3429315&univLogin02=stateChanged
No mention of us :(
john maronde just went to the A's. Damn. Oh well, we'll nab him in three years.
lemonjello
06-06-08, 05:08 PM
There goes Maronde to the A's.
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-06-08, 05:08 PM
A's take Maronde
ShannonSG
06-06-08, 05:09 PM
There goes Maronde, at long last. Doesn't matter. He's gonna be a Gator.
Cheesyhoboe
06-06-08, 05:11 PM
Stinkin Law...http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3429315&univLogin02=stateChanged
No mention of us :(
From his viewpoint it's pretty obvious the Yanks wouldn't be seen as having a great draft. They didn't have many big names besides Gerrit Cole.
Blieche on ESPN2 in 90 minutes against Cal State Fullerton.
Yanks take: Matt Summers RHP Chapperal HS AZ.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 05:14 PM
Blieche on ESPN2 in 90 minutes against Cal State Fullerton.
Yanks take: Matt Summers RHP Chapperal HS AZ.
He's starting?? Wow that would be cool to see
EDIT - my guide doesn't list that game as being on. I have Zona/Miami on ESPN though
He's starting?? Wow that would be cool to seeYup and he's opposing a Mets pick.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:15 PM
any word on mende/stokes/summers? all HS kids
any word on mende/stokes/summers? all HS kidsnothing stopping you from googling.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:17 PM
how many of these interesting guys can we sign:
1. Gerrit Cole--RHP
2. Bleich--LHP
3. Bittle--RHP
4. Corban--ss
5. Adams-2b
6. Smith--lf/1b
7. Marshall--RHP
8. Mike O'brien--RHP
9. Richardson--RHP
10. Braboy--rhp
11. Lassiter--ss
12. Luke Greinke--RHP
13. Ben MacMahon--C
14. DJ Mitchell--RHP
15. Dwyer--lhp??????/
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:18 PM
nothing stopping you from googling.
except an internet connection that was on the fritz a few min ago and almost deleted my long post in another thread. :(
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-06-08, 05:19 PM
how many of these interesting guys can we sign:
1. Gerrit Cole--RHP
2. Bleich--LHP
3. Bittle--RHP
4. Corban--ss
5. Adams-2b
6. Smith--lf/1b
7. Marshall--RHP
8. Mike O'brien--RHP
9. Richardson--RHP
10. Braboy--rhp
11. Lassiter--ss
12. Luke Greinke--RHP
13. Ben MacMahon--C
14. DJ Mitchell--RHP
15. Dwyer--lhp??????/
They have the money to sign them all.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 05:20 PM
I'm dying to see Chris Smith in action
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:20 PM
mende:
http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1477863&db_oem_id=7700
IrishYankee
06-06-08, 05:20 PM
First pass of the draft
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:21 PM
They have the money to sign them all.
would you say my list comprises the big names we drafted, guys who could make an impact for us?
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:22 PM
Stokes info:
http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/Player.mxp/AreaID-8e11e7d4-d3fa-4e6f-827f-652c29439d27/AthleteID-d925d887-f2bc-4982-bb4d-d577408ed075/SchoolID-fd9c9833-a579-4899-a166-76aa4f56d6b3/Boys_Varsity_Baseball_Spring_07-08/California
Yankees Take: Evan Ocheltree? RF Wake Forest.
evan ocheltree. rf. wake forest.
has any team passed yet?Padres
CallOfTheCrow
06-06-08, 05:25 PM
Only ones I really know anything about & am excited about are Cole, Smith, Bittle.
Cheesyhoboe
06-06-08, 05:29 PM
How do you know anything about Smith? Most sites have no info on him whatsoever and all we know about him are the softball-esque stats and what his coaches said.
MattUNC2003
06-06-08, 05:29 PM
Someone on PP.com pointed this out...
The Yanks drafted LHP Clint Preisendorfer in the 32nd round in 2004 when he graduated from La Jolla Country Day HS and the 31st round in 2005 when he was at Palomar College - and now the 42nd round of 2008. Preisendofer is 6'5", 235 lb left-handed pitcher. He is 21 years old and pitched for San Diego Christian College after transferring from Palomar College.
Yankees Take: Creed Simpson SS Auburn HS, Alabama
I believe that is the HS of Osi Umenyiora!
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 05:32 PM
Creede Simpson SS Auburn HS
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-06-08, 05:35 PM
UPDATE, 4:38 p.m.: The Yankees are trying to get the beat writers Gerrit Cole and Damon Oppenheimer on a conference call at 6 p.m. My plan will be to make that audio available close to game time.
-from PA
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:36 PM
bunch of HS kids with the last pics. wonder what we have in them...couple of SS and a rhp
Yanks Take: Matt Veltman San Diego CC.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:41 PM
are we the only ones still picking?
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 05:42 PM
no only padres, jays and dodgers dropped out
are we the only ones still picking?No we
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:44 PM
wow these later rounds just seem to be dragging on...
The Bleich game isn't on till 7:30 my time, not Eastern time, where it will be on at 10:30.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:48 PM
after yesterday's good picks i really like o'brien, brabow, richardson, mitchell, and dwyer, macmahon, lassiter.
hard to get a good read on the others...
Yanks Take: Ryan Flannery RHP from Farleigh Dickinson.
albo4lyfe
06-06-08, 05:51 PM
Which round are we on and who picked Sonny Gray? At work, posting through my phone. Thanks.
indianyanksfan
06-06-08, 05:51 PM
yanks taking boat load of righties
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 05:51 PM
yes the nj guy i was waiting for
ryan flannery. rhp (surprise) college sr. (surprise)
MattUNC2003
06-06-08, 05:53 PM
http://fdudevils.com/baseball/images/2008%20Headshots/FLANNERY,-Ryan.gif
I bet his nickname is "Haus" or something like that. That's a big dude.
THEBOSS84
06-06-08, 05:54 PM
Which round are we on and who picked Sonny Gray? At work, posting through my phone. Thanks.
I believe the Cubs took Gray.
Yankyfan
06-06-08, 05:59 PM
Clint P is a re draft . I think he was a D&F few years back?
Yanks Take: Rob Scahill RHP from Bradley.
MattUNC2003
06-06-08, 06:00 PM
Clint P is a re draft . I think he was a D&F few years back?
Scroll up.
Yankyfan
06-06-08, 06:02 PM
Scroll up. Cool ,:D Thanks
JavyVazquezIsSick
06-06-08, 06:02 PM
Who drafted Tyler Ladendorf?
BomberBrian
06-06-08, 06:03 PM
Scahill is a draft eligible sophomore.
Probably someone they will monitor over the summer before they make a formal offer.
Brijd10
06-06-08, 06:03 PM
Pat White, WVU's QB just went to the Reds.
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-06-08, 06:03 PM
From the early looks of things, if somebody made out today, it was college baseball. It looks to be a very impressive incoming class.
MattUNC2003
06-06-08, 06:05 PM
Cool ,:D Thanks
Good memory on your part remembering that he was drafted before. I guess, though, with a name like his, it's hard to forget.
Yankyfan
06-06-08, 06:05 PM
Who drafted Tyler Ladendorf?The Twins I think ?
MattUNC2003
06-06-08, 06:06 PM
Yep. At #60.
Yankyfan
06-06-08, 06:07 PM
Good memory on your part remembering that he was drafted before. I guess, though, with a name like his, it's hard to forget.Funny thing is I remember him being listed as 6-6 . I guess he shrunk an inch ?:P
once more.
jonathan folino. rhp.
Scahill is a draft eligible sophomore.
Probably someone they will monitor over the summer before they make a formal offer.Get ready to hear the term Summer Draft and Follow from Damon.
Yanks Take: Nick Turley LHP Harvard-Westlake School.
nick turley. lhp. high school.
think he's our last pick.
it's been great guys. see you later!
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 06:18 PM
i think hes a lefty
Metroidman
06-06-08, 06:19 PM
That only took 7 hours lol
But damn its about time.
The Yanks were one of the teams that did not thank the Commissioner before their last pick.
The Yanks were one of the teams that did not thank the Commissioner before their last pick.
Yea because he will make sure few of our picks play before Instructs as a lot of guys won't be signed until August 15th, even though they will agree on a contract a month, or 2 before that.
Crusadecat
06-06-08, 06:51 PM
Tommy Baldridge is a really good quality player from my alma mater Coastal Carolina. They are turning into a true big time baseball school and Tommy was the cleanup hitter. He recently had an acl injury so i think that hurt him as far as his numbers went this season. Not as fast as he once was, but his playing style reminds me alot of Rocco Baldelli.
yankstaketitle
06-06-08, 06:55 PM
coles voice isnt even deep yet hes really young
Metroidman
06-06-08, 07:01 PM
Man it'd be great if Cole rockets through the system and is up to AAA by 19/20
hockeypuck2008
06-06-08, 07:14 PM
Chad Gross- 6'6"!!!
a former Sox pick
groundhoggator
06-06-08, 07:36 PM
Doesn't seem like a lot of buzz this year over our drafted players (save Cole)... interesting that we drafted Venditite again (the lefty/righty guy)... maybe we can dfa both hawkins and farny for his slot :)
Doesn't seem like a lot of buzz this year over our drafted players (save Cole)... interesting that we drafted Venditite again (the lefty/righty guy)... maybe we can dfa both hawkins and farny for his slot :)the disparity between BA's scouting budget and the Yanks scouting budget has rendered many more or less speechless.
BomberBrian
06-07-08, 04:21 PM
Scoured the websites of the cape league teams and the only draftee i came across was 49th rounder john folino from uconn who is listed as a non-roster invitee on the wareham team.
BomberBrian
06-07-08, 04:31 PM
Justin Harper is on the Anchorage Bucs team in Alaska.
BomberBrian
06-07-08, 04:35 PM
Andy Suiter is on the St. Cloud RiverBats in the Northwoods League.
Yanks21
06-07-08, 06:15 PM
Pat White, WVU's QB just went to the Reds.
FWIW, Pat White was the Angels' 4th round pick back in 2004. He turned down a substantial bonus so he could play college football...
ArodMVP217
06-07-08, 08:50 PM
Mike Jones! Who? is on ESPNU starting at CF against Fresno State. i just saw him line out to right field, and he looked good doing it.
WATCH!
He's about to be up again.
ARoDfan4life
06-07-08, 09:44 PM
what he did ?
He grounded into a fielder's choice. They tried to double him up but he was way too fast.
philleotardo
06-07-08, 10:13 PM
Other Yankee Draftees:
-Luke Anders 2-4, 2B, 2 RBI....error.
-John Rye 1-6, 2B
-Tom Baldridge 1-3, BB.
I like Anders. He's humungous, he'll hit a bunch of HR and strike out a ton in the minors
Anders seems to have more plate patience, otherwise I'd consider him a lefty Shelley Duncan.
McMoose
06-07-08, 10:35 PM
Do you guys think there's any chance we sign this Dwyer kid? Possible first round left-hander... sounds perfect.
Do you guys think there's any chance we sign this Dwyer kid? Possible first round left-hander... sounds perfect.Why not?
ArodMVP217
06-07-08, 11:24 PM
Awww, i though MJ got taht homer to straightaway center.. see him again monday? idk about dwyer (us signing him) he should want top 10 high schooler money; he is somewhere in the top 5 from lists i've read.
jesterno2
06-08-08, 01:15 AM
Awww, i though MJ got taht homer to straightaway center.. see him again monday? idk about dwyer (us signing him) he should want top 10 high schooler money; he is somewhere in the top 5 from lists i've read.
could you post some of those lists to show just how highly ranked he was cause i havent been able to find anything in the places ive looked (brewerfan.net and such). thanks.
ArodMVP217
06-08-08, 09:17 AM
Heyman from SI actually knew him or knew a scout that followed him, and here is his consequent list; http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/05/28/heyman.raysdraft/index.html?eref=si_topstories
BA had him at the top arm in the NE region; don't think i can show the link, as well as an overall HS list they have
Any tough to sign late rounders this year? Like AJ, Angelli, Melancon or Horne?
Any tough to sign late rounders this year? Like AJ, Angelli, Melancon or Horne?Lots, Turley, McMahan, Dwyer etc. etc.
Lots, Turley, McMahan, Dwyer etc. etc.
Thanks!
I'm still boggled by the Yankees planning for the future. They have two possible high ceiling OFs within hailing distance to the main club. Almonte and Tabata are still kids. They have done nothing in recent drafts to address this issue. Do they plan to play Abreu and Damon for the next four years? Gardner is weak and Jackson is still adjusting to AA. Are they planning trades using pitching? They took one kid in Smith who's young. Boston took Westmoreland. Three years of drafting and they did not pick one high ceiling college OF, mindboggling.
I'm still boggled by the Yankees planning for the future. They have two possible high ceiling OFs within hailing distance to the main club. Almonte and Tabata are still kids. They have done nothing in recent drafts to address this issue. Do they plan to play Abreu and Damon for the next four years? Gardner is weak and Jackson is still adjusting to AA. Are they planning trades using pitching? They took one kid in Smith who's young. Boston took Westmoreland. Three years of drafting and they did not pick one high ceiling college OF, mindboggling.Maybe your mind will become unboggled around July 2.
Yankees1962
06-08-08, 11:55 AM
Maybe your mind will become unboggled around July 2.
Not only that, but the previous two July signings weren't exactly chopped liver as far as high ceiling outfielders go.
Not only that, but the previous two July signings weren't exactly chopped liver as far as high ceiling outfielders go.I concur.
Okay, please explain to me what the Yankees plan to do for the next four years? Jackson is at 270, Almonte is 19. If you count Gardner who should be a fourth OF, you have three quality OFs down to A-. July 02 is the six year plan, in the meantime, it's desert country out there. If Abreu runs into a wall (snicker) we're sucking swamp water.
SteelYank
06-08-08, 12:58 PM
Okay, please explain to me what the Yankees plan to do for the next four years? Jackson is at 270, Almonte is 19. If you count Gardner who should be a fourth OF, you have three quality OFs down to A-. July 02 is the six year plan, in the meantime, it's desert country out there. If Abreu runs into a wall (snicker) we're sucking swamp water.
This is just a wild guess, but if they don't feel there are good internal candidates, they might explore free agency or trades. I think they may have tried this in the past once or twice.
Okay, please explain to me what the Yankees plan to do for the next four years? Jackson is at 270, Almonte is 19. If you count Gardner who should be a fourth OF, you have three quality OFs down to A-. July 02 is the six year plan, in the meantime, it's desert country out there. If Abreu runs into a wall (snicker) we're sucking swamp water.You're throwing out Tabata and Curtis already?
indianyanksfan
06-08-08, 02:00 PM
ajax
tabata
curtis in trenton
the 2 almontes.
all the guys in DSL.
we have talent coming up.
oneill96
06-08-08, 02:13 PM
So Peter Gammons supposedly cried when the Yankees drafted Cole. That doesn't suprise me, if the Yankees had
drafted Jesus, Gammon's would start worshiping Satan.
I remember reading in Gammon's Diamond Notes column that the only reason the Bombers drafted John-Ford Griffin in 2001, was to piss
off his father, a minority stockholder in the (then) Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
Hey, Peter, keep taking your medication, okay.
ArodMVP217
06-08-08, 03:26 PM
So Peter Gammons supposedly cried when the Yankees drafted Cole. That doesn't suprise me, if the Yankees had
drafted Jesus, Gammon's would start worshiping Satan.
I remember reading in Gammon's Diamond Notes column that the only reason the Bombers drafted John-Ford Griffin in 2001, was to piss
off his father, a minority stockholder in the (then) Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
Hey, Peter, keep taking your medication, okay.
Who did he want to draft Gerrit, anyways?
You're throwing out Tabata and Curtis already?
I'm not throwing anyone out per se, but Tabata is struggling at AA, 3 to 4 years away,if he doesn't flame out, and Curtis is batting 250 in the #3 slot. Players flame out, this happens, but to scatter 4 high ceiling OFs over 4 levels is not performance. It's like the scouts can only work on pitching. We will take the best player available, yada, yada, three years of one sided drafting. Okay, they went for catchers but there were no high ceiling OFs in the last three years? We took one this year, if we sign, him, but again he's out of high school. Latin America, they're sixteen years old, where are the options?
I'm not throwing anyone out per se, but Tabata is struggling at AA, 3 to 4 years away,if he doesn't flame out, and Curtis is batting 250 in the #3 slot. Players flame out, this happens, but to scatter 4 high ceiling OFs over 4 levels is not performance. It's like the scouts can only work on pitching. We will take the best player available, yada, yada, three years of one sided drafting. Okay, they went for catchers but there were no high ceiling OFs in the last three years? We took one this year, if we sign, him, but again he's out of high school. Latin America, they're sixteen years old, where are the options?Tabata's not 3 to 4 years away. Where did you get that idea? It's early June, post surgery and he's one of the youngest players making the jump to AA this year. Do you know what he's been hitting lately to get from where he was to .248? Give him some time. He's two years away, tops. Yanks draft for BPA, not for whatever your shopping list is.
Tabata's not 3 to 4 years away. Where did you get that idea? It's early June, post surgery and he's one of the youngest players making the jump to AA this year. Do you know what he's been hitting lately to get from where he was to .248? Give him some time. He's two years away, tops. Yanks draft for BPA, not for whatever your shopping list is.
Struck a nerve, did I. Okay, Giambi, Damon, Matsui and Abreu need replacing. They are getting older. But they're doing so well that we have to keep them. Who do we have to replace them with? We're not talking League average players here. Tabata is 20 in August and it takes a year for him to regain his power stroke so we'll see next year. He'd better because we have no other RFs in the system. But in the meantime Abreu needs to be re signed, how many years will it take to sign him? Damon and Matsui are leading the AL in hitting, can you replace them?
Struck a nerve, did I. Okay, Giambi, Damon, Matsui and Abreu need replacing. They are getting older. But they're doing so well that we have to keep them. Who do we have to replace them with? We're not talking League average players here. Tabata is 20 in August and it takes a year for him to regain his power stroke so we'll see next year. He'd better because we have no other RFs in the system. But in the meantime Abreu needs to be re signed, how many years will it take to sign him? Damon and Matsui are leading the AL in hitting, can you replace them?You struck no nerve. I'm trying to help you.
BomberBrian
06-08-08, 04:27 PM
Last year we took Brackman at pick 30. These are college OF's taken in the supplemental 1st, ie. players you could conceivably make a case the yankees could have taken at 30.
Julio Borbon - Doing ok in A+.
Kellen Kulbacki -Doing poorly in A+
Corey Brown - Doing ok in A ball.
Danny Payne -Doing good in A+ but has been hurt, very limited # of at bats.
Would you want any of them over Brackman? I wouldn't.
In 2006 we took Ian Kennedy at 21, there were no college OF's taken after him in round 1 or any at all in the supp 1st when we used the pick on Joba.
Should we have taken a college OFer instead of Joba? In fact Jon Jay with the last pick of the 2nd round was the next college OFer taken after Tyler Colvin was taken 13th overall. In fact here is how Jon Jay's scouting report begins on BA "In a weak college outfield crop..."
You get the picture?
Cheesyhoboe
06-08-08, 04:35 PM
Struck a nerve, did I. Okay, Giambi, Damon, Matsui and Abreu need replacing. They are getting older. But they're doing so well that we have to keep them. Who do we have to replace them with? We're not talking League average players here. Tabata is 20 in August and it takes a year for him to regain his power stroke so we'll see next year. He'd better because we have no other RFs in the system. But in the meantime Abreu needs to be re signed, how many years will it take to sign him? Damon and Matsui are leading the AL in hitting, can you replace them?
Are you a fool? Any farm system that had prospects who project to be Giambi, Damon, Matsui and Abreu who are nmajor league ready would be the best in baseball by a mile. You're talking about 4 all-stars here. Quite simply, our farm doesn't have anyone who can come up and be as good as those 4, but neither does anyone else. If we specifically picked on need and drafted a bunch of weak OFs who were never projected to be anything special instead of 2 potential future aces, Andrew Brackman and Gerrit Cole, would you really be happy? Draft on talent, not need. Also, drafting is not the only way you get players, things like trades and FA signings also exist. The Tampa Bay Rays have so much young talent because they've been the worst team in the league for 10 years and having picking in the top 5 every year, and #1 most of the time, but we're not the Rays, we have money. Giambi? Let's get Teixeira. Abreu? Resign him. Call up Gardner to replace Damon or whatever. You're not thinking logically here.
NY_GOLDENARMS
06-08-08, 05:46 PM
Are you a fool?
Hey!! There is a great discussion going on here and its ruined when personal attacks and insults get introduced. You made some great points but the discussion goes off track very quickly when the discussion gets personal. Lets keep the topic on baseball. :D
Yankees1962
06-08-08, 06:00 PM
Last year we took Brackman at pick 30. These are college OF's taken in the supplemental 1st, ie. players you could conceivably make a case the yankees could have taken at 30.
Julio Borbon - Doing ok in A+.
Kellen Kulbacki -Doing poorly in A+
Corey Brown - Doing ok in A ball.
Danny Payne -Doing good in A+ but has been hurt, very limited # of at bats.
Would you want any of them over Brackman? I wouldn't.
In 2006 we took Ian Kennedy at 21, there were no college OF's taken after him in round 1 or any at all in the supp 1st when we used the pick on Joba.
Should we have taken a college OFer instead of Joba? In fact Jon Jay with the last pick of the 2nd round was the next college OFer taken after Tyler Colvin was taken 13th overall. In fact here is how Jon Jay's scouting report begins on BA "In a weak college outfield crop..."
You get the picture?
At least I got the picture.:)
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