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After watching the video on ESPN, I believe the umpires should have called the game until the swarms subsided. At the point that I pressed pause on the video, Joba had 15 bugs on him and countless more buzzing his head. In a game of this importance, why would baseball want bugs to possible affect the outcome. I understand that both teams had to play under the same circumstances, and Joba was man enough to not blame the bugs. However,
control has been a strong point for Chamberlain all year during his progression from Class-A Tampa to national sensation in the Bronx. In 112 2/3 innings encompassing four stops, he walked only 33 batters, hit four and threw seven wild pitches.http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3051291
I hate to be the one crying over spilt milk or making excuses, but I firmly believe that if the swams do not hit, the series is tied 1 - 1 and the Yanks are looking at wrapping this up in four.
stephsamps
10-06-07, 12:38 PM
we're already "bugging out"
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=106858
bronxburning
10-06-07, 03:52 PM
Forget the bugs. The Indians outplayed us last night. Suck it up. Let's go out there and win this series...the Yankee way...by hitting the shi*t out of the ball.
jnewmark
10-06-07, 03:55 PM
Stop blaming the bugs and the umps. Score more runs.
Sillycon
10-06-07, 07:06 PM
After watching the video on ESPN, I believe the umpires should have called the game until the swarms subsided. At the point that I pressed pause on the video, Joba had 15 bugs on him and countless more buzzing his head. In a game of this importance, why would baseball want bugs to possible affect the outcome. I understand that both teams had to play under the same circumstances, and Joba was man enough to not blame the bugs. However, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3051291
I hate to be the one crying over spilt milk or making excuses, but I firmly believe that if the swams do not hit, the series is tied 1 - 1 and the Yanks are looking at wrapping this up in four.
I firmly believe that if Posada did his job as a catcher, then one or both of those wild pitches could've been blocked. Then they'd win 1-0...
mgpenguin
10-06-07, 07:08 PM
I firmly believe that if Posada did his job as a catcher, then one or both of those wild pitches could've been blocked. Then they'd win 1-0...
I think people are really underestimating the difficulty of blocking 88mph sliders/98mph fastballs a foot or so on his non-glove side.
TheJobaRules
10-06-07, 07:08 PM
Enough with this...can we just move on to game 3? It is what it is...
nnysiny
10-06-07, 07:20 PM
theyre so cute until they go up your nose
http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/a-bugs-life-2823.jpg
Pinstripe Lore
10-06-07, 07:29 PM
Rough Carrigan on SOSH made an interesting post in regards to the midge infestation.
Curtis Granderson said they don't actually bite. They aren't repelled by "OFF" either. They seek out moisture. No wonder Torre didn't try to use Giambi late in the game.
If this is true, then the off spray usage actually backfired on the Yankees since it actually attracted the midges instead of repelling them. Coincidently enough, I don't remember any of the Indians players using any bug spray on themselves, but I do remember Carmona toweling himself off. Hopefully the Yankees don't make the same mistake again the next time they play in Cleveland
Sillycon
10-06-07, 07:39 PM
I think people are really underestimating the difficulty of blocking 88mph sliders/98mph fastballs a foot or so on his non-glove side.
Not when you call for the slider and is expecting it. Not when he's already thrown a wild pitch on that same slider earlier in that inning. Not when there's a man on third.
You're a catcher. You KNOW the slider has a vicious break. You HAVE to be ready to block it ESPECIALLY when there's a man on 3rd base. How many times have you seen opposing catchers call for that nasty strikeout pitch out of the strikezone like a splitter or a slider and drop to the ground perfectly when it's in the dirt? I've seen it plenty of times. That's your job as a catcher. Don't forget, Jorge doesn't even attempt to block it. He tries to CATCH it with his glove. A BIG NO-NO. You sorta wanna give him a pass on the 1st wild pitch. But on the 2nd one when you are armed with the knowledge that Joba HAS thrown that slider for a wild pitch? Add to that, there's a man on 3rd base?! What does he do?! YEP! HE TRIES TO CATCH IT WITH HIS GLOVE AGAIN!!!!! He didn't give it a chance to be blocked. He wanted to be all fancy like Pudge Rodriguez and catch wild pitches with his glove...
mgpenguin
10-06-07, 07:45 PM
Not when you call for the slider and is expecting it. Not when he's already thrown a wild pitch on that same slider earlier in that inning. Not when there's a man on third.
You're a catcher. You KNOW the slider has a vicious break. You HAVE to be ready to block it ESPECIALLY when there's a man on 3rd base. How many times have you seen opposing catchers call for that nasty strikeout pitch out of the strikezone like a splitter or a slider and drop to the ground perfectly when it's in the dirt? I've seen it plenty of times. That's your job as a catcher. Don't forget, Jorge doesn't even attempt to block it. He tries to CATCH it with his glove. A BIG NO-NO. You sorta wanna give him a pass on the 1st wild pitch. But on the 2nd one when you are armed with the knowledge that Joba HAS thrown that slider for a wild pitch? Add to that, there's a man on 3rd base?! What does he do?! YEP! HE TRIES TO CATCH IT WITH HIS GLOVE AGAIN!!!!! He didn't give it a chance to be blocked. He wanted to be all fancy like Pudge Rodriguez and catch wild pitches with his glove...
Again, I think he would have had to already be moving to block that pitch when Chamberlain threw it. It's not an issue of not wanting to get in front of it, it an issue of whether or not he was going to be able to and whether that would make it better or worse. I'm not sure how many catcher would have been able to block it. And to say that he was trying to look cool by gloving it is just dumb.
JavyVazquezIsSick
10-06-07, 07:49 PM
Lets open another thread.
Casey37
10-06-07, 07:50 PM
Enough of this bug or lousy umpiring BS. It should have never come down to one run on three hits. All blame should rest on Yankee bats, plain and simple.
fredgmuggs
10-06-07, 07:52 PM
Enough of this bug or lousy umpiring BS. It should have never come down to one run on three hits. All blame should rest on Yankee bats, plain and simple.Quit talking sense, Casey. We need to assign blame damn it.
Sillycon
10-06-07, 09:28 PM
Again, I think he would have had to already be moving to block that pitch when Chamberlain threw it. It's not an issue of not wanting to get in front of it, it an issue of whether or not he was going to be able to and whether that would make it better or worse. I'm not sure how many catcher would have been able to block it. And to say that he was trying to look cool by gloving it is just dumb.
Was he expecting Joba to throw his slider for a strike? Sliders are generally meant to be going down and in and as a catcher, you're going to have to anticipate it. We won't know if Posada could've blocked it or not because he didn't even attempt to do it. It's situational. There's a man on third. You've already seen Joba throw a wild pitch with that slider. You better be damn well getting ready to block it. Yet, there he was not in position and just trying to pick it off with his glove... Jorge just isn't a good receiver and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Molina behind the plate.
The Q Bomb
10-06-07, 09:45 PM
Enough of this bug or lousy umpiring BS. It should have never come down to one run on three hits. All blame should rest on Yankee bats, plain and simple. Amen and move on. The Indians had the same bugs and the same umpire. Now, if you find that The Indians opens up cans of bugs and sprayed them on the field .... then that's something to complain about!
RIYankee23
10-06-07, 09:55 PM
Amen and move on. The Indians had the same bugs and the same umpire. Now, if you find that The Indians opens up cans of bugs and sprayed them on the field .... then that's something to complain about!
Except that the Indian batters and Carmona didn't look nearly as distracted as Joba. A big reason for that is because they're used to it! It's not the first time it's happened in that wonderful city! They stopped a regular season game there in 2004 because of the same thing yet it's not worth stopping a playoff game??
Garko said that he saw Carmona deal with bugs 10 times that size playing winter ball in the Dominican Republic last year.
The truth is that the bugs gave the Indians and unfair advantage. The umps should've delayed the game and Torre should've protested it or even pulled his team off the field.
mgpenguin
10-06-07, 11:03 PM
Was he expecting Joba to throw his slider for a strike? Sliders are generally meant to be going down and in and as a catcher, you're going to have to anticipate it. We won't know if Posada could've blocked it or not because he didn't even attempt to do it. It's situational. There's a man on third. You've already seen Joba throw a wild pitch with that slider. You better be damn well getting ready to block it. Yet, there he was not in position and just trying to pick it off with his glove... Jorge just isn't a good receiver and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Molina behind the plate.
Unless he was expecting the pitch to end up deep in the left handed batters' box, he wasn't going to be able to block it with his body. Only the catchers with the most range behind the plate can manage that. And again- it's an 88 mph tight breaking slider, not some 82mph junk that most pitchers throw. Those are two very different pitches. I'm not sure Molina gets in front of those either. Those were very, very difficult plays.
Sillycon
10-07-07, 12:33 AM
Unless he was expecting the pitch to end up deep in the left handed batters' box, he wasn't going to be able to block it with his body. Only the catchers with the most range behind the plate can manage that. And again- it's an 88 mph tight breaking slider, not some 82mph junk that most pitchers throw. Those are two very different pitches. I'm not sure Molina gets in front of those either. Those were very, very difficult plays.
You position yourself to give yourself a chance to move laterally. Posada didn't do that. Again, there was a man on third base. You have to be ready for wild pitches.. It wasn't that far out that he couldn't block it. You have to remember that a breaking pitch will bounce the opposite direction where it was originally intended to go. After looking at replays, he just flat out boxed that pitch as well. I'm continually amazed that it looks as if he's surprised by the movement of the pitches.
Stick Michael
10-07-07, 01:01 AM
Quit talking sense, Casey. We need to assign blame damn it.
Seriously. Just a grab a torch and vilify someone already!
Octoberbaby
10-07-07, 01:02 AM
Some people are affected by bugs more than other people and I think Joba is one of those people. Joe should have taken him out and asked the umps to call time because of the swarm. The other team knew not to use that spray but they did make it look like they were using it even though they weren't. Was that purposeful so we would use the spray and get hit harder by the bugs?
DiMaggio5CF
10-07-07, 01:24 AM
I definitely think that the bugs affected Joba, but if that was the case, it was up to him to call time and tell the umpires that the situation was a joke and that they needed to stop play. But if you're not going to do anything about it, then you can't place blame on it.
Octoberbaby
10-07-07, 01:26 AM
I definitely think that the bugs affected Joba, but if that was the case, it was up to him to call time and tell the umpires that the situation was a joke and that they needed to stop play. But if you're not going to do anything about it, then you can't place blame on it.
He is just a rookie. Joe should have gone out and asked him if he needed to call time.
Centerhero
10-07-07, 03:57 AM
In such a meaningful game, the Yankees should have declared an all out war on the bugs.
The umps failed to do what? :-poke-:
Hello.............
yes the bugs were a problem - very strange but it happened, yes the bats didn't hit the ball, is it me or did I see great pitching - it happens - they were lights out... it's the playoffs everyone is up another level.... it doesn't look good but we have say we have been in the playoffs all summer and had some great baseball and it won't end today.
BronxBomber61
10-07-07, 07:28 AM
He is just a rookie. Joe should have gone out and asked him if he needed to call time.
"Chamberlain refused to blame the gnats. But Joe Torre had gone out in the eighth to crew chief Bruce Froemming, asking if maybe this was a good time for a delay because the insects were as thick as a blanket out there. Froemming told him to bug off.
It was just a little irritation," Froemming said. "We've had bugs before. I've seen bugs and mosquitoes since I started umpiring."
Froemming is old school, if someone was hurt because of Chamberlain's wildness maybe they would re-think this.
The only thing that beat Joba Chamberlain all year was an act of God.
The only thing that beat Joba Chamberlain all year was an act of God.
that's more impressive than anything Chuck Norris ever really did...
blahblahblah
10-07-07, 09:24 AM
The only thing that beat Joba Chamberlain all year was an act of God.
Yep. That and a Yankees offense that managed to score one run.
Enough of the bug excuse already.
Stop blaming the bugs and the umps. Score more runs.
Agreed. You can kiss A-Rod bye bye if we lose tonight and he goes 0-4 again. He'll be packing his bags and heading to play for Lou. Joe will be gone and I hope Mo and Po are not gone with him but that would not surprise me. A lot of loyalty there. That is all I have to say.
It's not an excuse. It's what happened.
mgpenguin
10-07-07, 10:10 AM
It's not an excuse. It's what happened.
Blaming the loss on bugs is an excuse. They tied the game due in part to the bugs. In the next inning, with Carmona surrounded by bugs himself, A-Rod struck out with the go ahead run on 2nd. The Yankees didn't manage to get a runner on over the next to innings off a guy who threw 31 pitches the day before. The offense and Vizcaino lost the game itself. The bugs aided in tying the game, but blaming them for the loss itself is an excuse. The players lost the game.
yankeesAZ
10-07-07, 11:15 AM
Blaming the loss on bugs is an excuse. They tied the game due in part to the bugs. In the next inning, with Carmona surrounded by bugs himself, A-Rod struck out with the go ahead run on 2nd. The Yankees didn't manage to get a runner on over the next to innings off a guy who threw 31 pitches the day before. The offense and Vizcaino lost the game itself. The bugs aided in tying the game, but blaming them for the loss itself is an excuse. The players lost the game.
Agreed. The fans and Steinbrenner complaining about the umps and the bugs make us sound like a bunch of whining "$200M payroll" babies.
Derek said it best when he said it was "homefield advantage".
Beat the D-Rays a couple more times and that game is in YS with no midges. Perhaps those games in April are important also.
TheTinoMobile
10-07-07, 11:25 AM
I hate bugs.....when I played Soccer in CT, they would swarm me because I sweat a lot and hated undershirts... Always distracted the hell out of me. They also swarmed my buddy, but he never was actually bothered much by them, he'd wave his arms once or twice and then he'd be fine. For me, I would tend to focus on them because they were in my line of sight and all over me.. it was frustrating.
I feel the umps should have delayed the game for an hour or so... maybe to give time for the wind to pick up.
You would think a stadium, where this problem may have happened in the past, would implement some sort of deterrent. Perhaps a "dummy" covered in like sugar water... on the upper outside of the stadium or something. Something that would attract them more than sweat...or make it emulate the scent of sweat stronger than the players to attract the midges away.
I also think the blame lies not with the bugs though, but with Torre keeping Matsui in the damn lineup. The guy is ABYSMAL.
NYYDragoon
10-07-07, 11:42 AM
Without a doubt, the bugs distracted the hell out of Joba which caused him to blow the save. I've played sports in half that many bugs, and I absolutely hate it. I can only imagine trying to pitch with flying ants eating my neck and obscuring my vision. With a precision action like pitching, anything like that is bound to throw you off.
...But that only tied the game. Carmona was nasty, but certain guys (Jorge, Arod, Matsui) were swinging at things that they had no business swinging at. And Fausto only went 9 innings when I'm pretty sure there were 11 in the game. In short, 1) the offense couldn't pick Joba up, and 2) Vizcaino, and pretty much the entire bullpen, is as streaky and unable to carry us in extra innings as it's been all year (which explains the 4-9).
The bugs helped make the game obnoxious, but they didn't directly cause the loss.
Meecham4ever
10-07-07, 11:46 AM
What the hell are bugs good for anyway?? Good riddance....kill 'em....kill 'em all.
CLEMENS SEZ GAME 2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELAYED:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10072007/sports/yankees/clemens__game_2_should_have_ha.htm
Clemens, unprompted, talked about the midges being a hindrance, then said, "I would have probably pulled us off the field."
ColombiaYanksFan
10-07-07, 11:51 AM
Joba had 15 bugs on him and countless more buzzing his head.
Really? I counted 17.:P
So...who else thinks that the Yankees should sue OFF! for their false advertising and poor product?
NelsonMuntz
10-07-07, 12:27 PM
I read somewhere that Joba, Mientkiewicz and Jeter were all wearing Jeter's cologne "Driven" Friday night. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I read somewhere that Joba, Mientkiewicz and Jeter were all wearing Jeter's cologne "Driven" Friday night. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Who the heck wears cologne to play baseball...I don't buy it..:o
metalyank
10-07-07, 12:43 PM
I read somewhere that Joba, Mientkiewicz and Jeter were all wearing Jeter's cologne "Driven" Friday night. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
That was them joking in the clubhouse after the game.
dont_ya_know24
10-07-07, 12:48 PM
Enough of this bug or lousy umpiring BS. It should have never come down to one run on three hits. All blame should rest on Yankee bats, plain and simple.
i don't understand this statement. why should the yankee bats be to blame or scoring 1 run, while the indian bats scored none up until that point.
NelsonMuntz
10-07-07, 12:54 PM
That was them joking in the clubhouse after the game.
Oh ok. :o
Blaming the loss on bugs is an excuse. They tied the game due in part to the bugs.
If the Indians tied the game due in part to the bugs, then it follows that the Yankees didn't win that game in part due to the bugs. Parse it any way you like, the bugs affected the outcome of the game.
Saying so isn't an excuse for what happened, it is an explanation.
NYIndian2005
10-07-07, 10:01 PM
The best sign I saw in the crowd today
Welcome to New York. No Bugs. :roflmao:
PeteRFNY
10-07-07, 10:06 PM
My complaint about the bugs is neither pro-Yanks or pro-Injuns. My worry was that is God forbid someone uncorked an up-and-in pitch at the very moment that a batter got one of those damn things in his eye, someone could have gotten a fastball in the side of the head. It was a frivolous and irresponsible move by the umps not delaying the game.
I had seen a game in KC at a bar earlier this year where the same exact thing happend, and the umps called a delay until the swarm passed. I remember after the game the umps said they didn't want anyone getting killed. Funny how two crews can see the same event so differently.
yankeesAZ
10-07-07, 10:07 PM
Forecast in Cleveland for Wednesday is 55/45. Time to lay the bugs to rest!
The Q Bomb
10-07-07, 10:10 PM
Agreed. The fans and Steinbrenner complaining about the umps and the bugs make us sound like a bunch of whining "$200M payroll" babies.
Derek said it best when he said it was "homefield advantage".
Beat the D-Rays a couple more times and that game is in YS with no midges. Perhaps those games in April are important also. That's it! And I so agree with your last line. I love John Sterling but I absolutely HATE when he says, "... an absolutely meaningless game..." when The Yanks lose in April or May. I always think, "Yeah tell me that when we lose the division by one game on September 30th!"
cupcollector99
10-07-07, 10:21 PM
Right now, there is a crew of people sitting outside the Jake trying to figure out a way to breed a few million more of those bugs in time for a possible game five or for the ALCS.
Those things would have a field day with Schilling and Ortiz out there. All that sweat.. They may even mistake Manny's hair and Youk's beard for nests and get all comfortable and lay eggs up in there.
ToneinTO
10-07-07, 10:48 PM
My complaint about the bugs is neither pro-Yanks or pro-Injuns. My worry was that is God forbid someone uncorked an up-and-in pitch at the very moment that a batter got one of those damn things in his eye, someone could have gotten a fastball in the side of the head. It was a frivolous and irresponsible move by the umps not delaying the game.
I had seen a game in KC at a bar earlier this year where the same exact thing happend, and the umps called a delay until the swarm passed. I remember after the game the umps said they didn't want anyone getting killed. Funny how two crews can see the same event so differently.
Great point.
It was a bug conspiracy! They bred those suckers in the trainer's room to unleash them at just the right moment! That OFF spray was really sugar water in an aerosol can. MLB needs to conduct an immediate investigation into Bug Gate!
Meecham4ever
10-08-07, 10:28 AM
http://http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.math.wisc.edu/~wang/images/Mydrawings/bunny.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.math.wisc.edu/~wang/art04.htm&h=583&w=800&sz=79&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=XXs-tcGw9MlVtM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbugs%2Bbunny%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Bugs and baseball....together again....
YankeePride1967
10-08-07, 10:30 AM
After watching the video on ESPN, I believe the umpires should have called the game until the swarms subsided. At the point that I pressed pause on the video, Joba had 15 bugs on him and countless more buzzing his head. In a game of this importance, why would baseball want bugs to possible affect the outcome. I understand that both teams had to play under the same circumstances, and Joba was man enough to not blame the bugs. However, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3051291
I hate to be the one crying over spilt milk or making excuses, but I firmly believe that if the swams do not hit, the series is tied 1 - 1 and the Yanks are looking at wrapping this up in four.
Unless the bugs targeted the Yankees and ignored the Indians, the bugs are not the reason we lost. Cleveland managed to work around them, so should we have.
Unless the bugs targeted the Yankees and ignored the Indians, the bugs are not the reason we lost. Cleveland managed to work around them, so should we have.
Wouldn't the Indians be more used to them since the Indians play in Cleveland more than the Yankees?
Anyways, does anyone have photos of the incident?
PittsburghYankeeFan
10-08-07, 10:59 AM
The bugs were the worst in the top of the 8th, and the OFF sprayed on Joba made it worse. It affected the outcome of the game. Anyone who thinks differently is blind.
The KC game was a precedent. The umps dd not follow it.
Suppose Joba nailed Grady Sizemore in the head and he was out for the season? I'm not sure the Cleveland group would be so sanguine about it.
yankeesAZ
10-08-07, 11:00 AM
Unless the bugs targeted the Yankees and ignored the Indians, the bugs are not the reason we lost. Cleveland managed to work around them, so should we have.
Exactly. It's not like Joba got lit up. He gave up 1 run on wild pitches. Unfortunately, our bats only got one run on 11 innings.
4bronxbombers
10-08-07, 11:01 AM
Last place (or one of the last places) in the world I'd ever want to live. :barf:
Casey37
10-08-07, 11:50 AM
Stop blaming the bugs and the umps. Score more runs.
Agreed. If they play from now on like they did last night, we're in business.
Hitman23
10-08-07, 11:57 AM
I know I'm late but I was in AC for the weekend for a buddy's bachelor party. This is the first I can really address the situation. Here's my take on it:
I fully believe that Joba choked. As much as I like the guy, and I still believe in him, I don't make excuses for what happened. The situation was what it was, and yeah it was real crappy but it was still a situation that needed to be dealt with.
Now, Jorge is every bit as much to blame because he should have blocked that ball. I love Jorge and I'm grateful for every contribution that he has made for the team, but seriously, he helped hand that game over. And I was effin furious with him for it.
That being said.... I am sick of the "Cleveland's pitching had to deal with it too." Yeah? The game was stopped 3 times due to bug delays. It was mid inning and the Joba zone was broken. Not to mention the fact that Carmona had 20 minutes or more to mentally prepare for the bugs, to douse himself in a gallon of off and go take a shower if he so chose to do because they are attracted to sweat and he could have minimized it. It's totally not the same situation.
cajunyankee
10-08-07, 12:13 PM
Is there something in his diet Joba should add or delete before game 5? What about the rest of the team; are they being proactive in anticipating a recurrence of this problem?
Snatch Catch
10-08-07, 12:19 PM
I'd be inclined to think that they just tell the umps they can't do it, if it happens again. Let them get called for a delay of game or something before they are forced to throw a pitch.
groovitude
10-08-07, 12:25 PM
My complaint about the bugs is neither pro-Yanks or pro-Injuns. My worry was that is God forbid someone uncorked an up-and-in pitch at the very moment that a batter got one of those damn things in his eye, someone could have gotten a fastball in the side of the head. It was a frivolous and irresponsible move by the umps not delaying the game.
I had seen a game in KC at a bar earlier this year where the same exact thing happend, and the umps called a delay until the swarm passed. I remember after the game the umps said they didn't want anyone getting killed. Funny how two crews can see the same event so differently.
My dad and I were talking about this yesterday before the game, and this was his opinion -- that, even if you don't take the integrity of the game or the bias of coming out on the losing end into account, the umpires were extraordinarily irresponsible about it. If the pitcher can't see (like Joba said he couldn't), gets thrown off, or the batter jerks into it, someone could get seriously hurt.
And it's not like it was Tim Wakefield on the mound. You're talking about 100 mph heat hitting someone in the head.
Yankees™
10-08-07, 12:26 PM
Is there something in his diet Joba should add or delete before game 5? What about the rest of the team; are they being proactive in anticipating a recurrence of this problem?
From what I have read/heard they should;
1. Avoid spraying themselves with bug spray.
2. Dry themselves off before going on the field.
Midges are attracted to moisture. Joba pours water all over himself before coming on to the field, he should probably avoid that if there is an infestation.
However the high temperature for Cleveland on Wednesday is suppose to be 59°F, so if there is a Game 5, bugs most likely won't be a problem.
what happens if a team gets called for Delay of game??
if these flying bugs enter into the game again by all means STOP THE GAME and have the grounds crew do something about it. having an even playing field is the only thing fair to both teams not to mention the SAFETY of the players.
i wonder what the Commisioner of Baseball take is on this. never hear much from him......
cajunyankee
10-08-07, 12:30 PM
I'd be inclined to think that they just tell the umps they can't do it, if it happens again. Let them get called for a delay of game or something before they are forced to throw a pitch. I don't think Joe wants to have even a 5 yard penalty at this point in the series. It's all about field position.
Snatch Catch
10-08-07, 12:31 PM
I don't think Joe wants to have even a 5 yard penalty at this point in the series. It's all about field position.
I think a delay of game actually results in a ball being called and added to the count.
So whomever was out there would just go from a 1-1 count to a 2-1 count.
what happens if a team gets called for Delay of game??
if these flying bugs enter into the game again by all means STOP THE GAME and have the grounds crew do something about it. having an even playing field is the only thing fair to both teams not to mention the SAFETY of the players.
i wonder what the Commisioner of Baseball take is on this. never hear much from him......
i guess bud's herculean effort for bonds took out all his energy
i guess bud's herculean effort for bonds took out all his energy
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: THAT made my day!!!!
fredgmuggs
10-08-07, 12:43 PM
I'd be inclined to think that they just tell the umps they can't do it, if it happens again. Let them get called for a delay of game or something before they are forced to throw a pitch.Apparently it shouldn't be an issue again because those gnat things hatched from a larvae and it's just one or two day issue but you're point is taken. I would have liked them to at least forced the umpires to make a decision by leaving the field to see what might have happened. But it's over and done with now... cest le vie.
Snatch Catch
10-08-07, 12:45 PM
Apparently it shouldn't be an issue again because those gnat things hatched from a larvae and it's just one or two day issue but you're point is taken. I would have liked them to at least forced the umpires to make a decision by leaving the field to see what might have happened. But it's over and done with now... cest le vie.
Totally agree.
JohnnyB
10-08-07, 05:38 PM
F*ck bugs...
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