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TheInfallibleOne
09-05-07, 03:01 PM
Dellin Betances, whats the story on him? I know hes probably a ways off but some Yankee fan friends of mine want to know more about this Royal Flush thing...
Jose Tabata...The hype around here was insane for so long, whats the deal, when will we here his name demanded by GMs everywhere and Cashman saying no way?
Alan Horne, Ive heard good things but I know hes probably a year or 2 away at least.
Andrew Brackman. OK hes hurt but what are the chances he makes it up here. I heard he was going to be a reliever.
Humberto Sanchez. Shouldnt he be here by now? Ross Ohlendorf too...
Juan Miranda. I think this was the guy who came out of the Cuban WBC team. Any chance that he becomes the 1B of the future?
At any rate the bats interest me more than the pitching, in fact I would love to get some more hyped bats as it seems our flow of highly touted pitching prospects (a staggering number of RHP) can hold us for a while.
Sean Ryan
09-05-07, 03:09 PM
Dellin Betances, whats the story on him? I know hes probably a ways off but some Yankee fan friends of mine want to know more about this Royal Flush thing...
Jose Tabata...The hype around here was insane for so long, whats the deal, when will we here his name demanded by GMs everywhere and Cashman saying no way?
Alan Horne, Ive heard good things but I know hes probably a year or 2 away at least.
Andrew Brackman. OK hes hurt but what are the chances he makes it up here. I heard he was going to be a reliever.
Humberto Sanchez. Shouldnt he be here by now? Ross Ohlendorf too...
Juan Miranda. I think this was the guy who came out of the Cuban WBC team. Any chance that he becomes the 1B of the future?
At any rate the bats interest me more than the pitching, in fact I would love to get some more hyped bats as it seems our flow of highly touted pitching prospects (a staggering number of RHP) can hold us for a while.
Alan Horne if needed could probably be in the Bronx by mid season.
Sean Ryan
09-05-07, 03:11 PM
Dellin Betances, whats the story on him? I know hes probably a ways off but some Yankee fan friends of mine want to know more about this Royal Flush thing...
Jose Tabata...The hype around here was insane for so long, whats the deal, when will we here his name demanded by GMs everywhere and Cashman saying no way?
Alan Horne, Ive heard good things but I know hes probably a year or 2 away at least.
Andrew Brackman. OK hes hurt but what are the chances he makes it up here. I heard he was going to be a reliever.
Humberto Sanchez. Shouldnt he be here by now? Ross Ohlendorf too...
Juan Miranda. I think this was the guy who came out of the Cuban WBC team. Any chance that he becomes the 1B of the future?
At any rate the bats interest me more than the pitching, in fact I would love to get some more hyped bats as it seems our flow of highly touted pitching prospects (a staggering number of RHP) can hold us for a while.
Also bother Brackman and Sanchez had TJ surgery.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
09-05-07, 03:17 PM
Dellin Betances, whats the story on him? I know hes probably a ways off but some Yankee fan friends of mine want to know more about this Royal Flush thing...
Jose Tabata...The hype around here was insane for so long, whats the deal, when will we here his name demanded by GMs everywhere and Cashman saying no way?
Alan Horne, Ive heard good things but I know hes probably a year or 2 away at least.
Andrew Brackman. OK hes hurt but what are the chances he makes it up here. I heard he was going to be a reliever.
Humberto Sanchez. Shouldnt he be here by now? Ross Ohlendorf too...
Juan Miranda. I think this was the guy who came out of the Cuban WBC team. Any chance that he becomes the 1B of the future?
At any rate the bats interest me more than the pitching, in fact I would love to get some more hyped bats as it seems our flow of highly touted pitching prospects (a staggering number of RHP) can hold us for a while.2010/2011 will probably be the first time we see Dellin. He has to work on his command, get used to his body, and build up his innings.
Tabata was a big name in the Abreu trade before Cashman brought out the pimp stick and got Abreu for garbage. He could be up for a cup of coffe next year, but 2009 seems more likely. It all depends on how he adjusts after having hand surgery.
Horne will be up in some capacity next year, baring injury. He'll be 25 soon and his pitches, if i'm not mistaken, are all done developing.
Brackman is a wild card, somewhat like Joba was last year. He likely won't even pitch in 08, so who knows with him. If i'm not mistaken he has two plus pitches and an average changeup, so its unlikely he'll become a reliever anytime soon.
Sanchez is still rehabbing from Tommy John surgery and Ohlendorf spent some time on the DL and has been pitching poorly, but has shown great stuff out of the pen.
It depends on who you ask about Miranda.
metalboy15
09-05-07, 03:49 PM
Dellin Betances, whats the story on him? I know hes probably a ways off but some Yankee fan friends of mine want to know more about this Royal Flush thing...
Dellin Betances was pitching for the Staten Island Yankees before going down with some elbow tightness/soreness, which made sense because his velocity was down and his control/command was off. He was shutdown for the year. ETA: He´s probably 3 to 4 years away from the bigs, but his potential is unquestionable.
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dellin%20Betances&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=476454
Jose Tabata...The hype around here was insane for so long, whats the deal, when will we here his name demanded by GMs everywhere and Cashman saying no way?
Ahhhh, Welcome to last year :P, His name, alongside with Hughes, was demanded by almost every single GM out there during last years trading deadline period.
He played for the Tampa Yankees this season. He was showing every single one of his tools (Contact, Speed, Patience... etc) expect for power, which was hampered by a wrist injury he suffered last year. He opted for surgery (remove hamate bone). ETA: 2008 (September call up), 2009 as a full-time player.
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Jose%20Tabata&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=467798
Alan Horne, Ive heard good things but I know hes probably a year or 2 away at least.
Alan had a breakout season, resulting in being named "EL Pitcher of the Year". #2 or #3 starter potential. He´s got great stuff. ETA: 2008 (late season call up).
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Alan%20Horne&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=458951
Andrew Brackman. OK hes hurt but what are the chances he makes it up here. I heard he was going to be a reliever.
He has SP stuff, no doubt about it, but his health/durability is worrisome. If he remains healthy he has "Dellin Betances" type of potential. ETA: Who knows?...
No Stats.
Humberto Sanchez. Shouldnt he be here by now? Ross Ohlendorf too...
Humberto Sanchez had TJ surgery last April, expect him to be pitching in games again by mid/late 08, his future is uncertain though, will he remain a starter?, where he has #2/#3 potential, or is he destined to be in the bullpen?, where he projects to be a late innings RP (8th/9th inning guy), Either way he has big time stuff. ETA: Might make the big club out of ST in 09 (if converted to a RP), as a SP... late 09.
No Stats.
Ross Ohlendorf is pitching in relief for Scranton. He´s had control issues all year long, which is weird because he´s always been known for being a "control pitcher" (1.47 BB/9 in 177 IP last year). Fastball velocity increases from 90-92 to 94-97 when pitching out of the pen, not sure if he has a future with the big club as a SP. Future 6th/7th inning guy? or LRP? ETA: 2008... if ever...
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Ross%20Ohlendorf&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=456027
Juan Miranda. I think this was the guy who came out of the Cuban WBC team. Any chance that he becomes the 1B of the future?
No, he´s an "all bat-no glove" type of player, he might become our DH of the future though, either way he´s got a big bat, 20-25 homer potential. Showing some good plate discipline in AA. ETA: 2008.
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Juan%20Miranda&pos=1B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=506673
TheInfallibleOne
09-05-07, 05:14 PM
No, he´s an "all bat-no glove" type of player, he might become our DH of the future though, either way he´s got a big bat, 20-25 homer potential. Showing some good plate discipline in AA. ETA: 2008.
Stats: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Juan%20Miranda&pos=1B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=506673
First, off, great post! Thank you VERY much for all the great info!
maybe Donnie Baseball can cure up that no glove problem?
My thoughts on all those pitchers coming off TJ surgery would be the bullpen especially since thats where we will need it most. It seems like Hughes Joba Wang and Kennedy are the front runners for the rotation, and we could always use a big veteran like Santana to lead the way. So maybe a pen of Cox Brackman and Sanchez would make games a lot shorter. A Free Agent closer like Nathan and the only thing left to worry about is the lineup, and even that seems to be rounding itself out. Too bad we dont have a clue who will be replacing Jorge in a few years.
bmxstreetrider86
09-05-07, 05:19 PM
brackman is way too talented for everyone to be putting in the pen already.
i wasnt a big fan of the pick, the contract i have defended since we used a 1st rounder on him we needed to sign him, but he was easily one of the top 2-3 talents in the draft
metalboy15
09-05-07, 05:21 PM
brackman is way too talented for everyone to be putting in the pen already.
i wasnt a big fan of the pick, the contract i have defended since we used a 1st rounder on him we needed to sign him, but he was easily one of the top 2-3 talents in the draft
Exactly.
bmxstreetrider86
09-05-07, 05:24 PM
anyone who doesnt like brackman should watch his draft video, you can see the athleicsm and talent with every pitch
I know betances was shut down for the season, but how much will that help? "Elbow tightness" sounds like a really bad thing. How likely is it that he ends up getting TJ surgery?
I know betances was shut down for the season, but how much will that help? "Elbow tightness" sounds like a really bad thing. How likely is it that he ends up getting TJ surgery?
I'm guessing if he needed TJ he would have had it earlier in the season. I don't see why they would wait as Brackman pretty much had it immediately. Unless they want Dellin in the '08 TJ Club.....
bmxstreetrider86
09-05-07, 06:58 PM
people overreact to elbow problems, its not unusual for young pitchers to experience a degree of discomfort while pitching
the yankees are being ultra cautious with dellin, just like they were with hughes
YankProspector
09-07-07, 03:40 PM
people overreact to elbow problems, its not unusual for young pitchers to experience a degree of discomfort while pitching
the yankees are being ultra cautious with dellin, just like they were with hughes
The Yankees are like that with all pitchers.....the were cautious with Chamberlain last year also. No need to push these guys. It's not the 7th game of the World Series.
Snatch Catch
09-07-07, 04:52 PM
brackman is way too talented for everyone to be putting in the pen already.
i wasnt a big fan of the pick, the contract i have defended since we used a 1st rounder on him we needed to sign him, but he was easily one of the top 2-3 talents in the draft
I totally agree.
This seems to sum up your point similarly:
http://www.nomaas.org/brackman2.html
Yankeesfan924
09-09-07, 09:42 AM
If half these guys pan out, we should be favorites for the 2012 World Series.
If half these guys pan out, we should be favorites for the 2012 World Series.
If all these guys pan out, then we will never lose again. :D
ARoDfan4life
09-09-07, 04:51 PM
metroid your wrong on Humberto he'll be in ST games in 2008 per Cashman and Nardi
as for Betances depends rumor is he might go A-ball or S.I. again next season, he has a quick movers ability. I'm surprised no one mentioned Mark Melancon he'll be in ST in 2008 and don't sleep on Tabata/Jackson for ST.
JeterRodriguezSheff
09-09-07, 09:45 PM
I totally agree.
This seems to sum up your point similarly:
http://www.nomaas.org/brackman2.html
Beautiful article. We were especially able to afford the big risk after going safe the previous year with Kennedy.
I totally agree.
This seems to sum up your point similarly:
http://www.nomaas.org/brackman2.html
That's really a well written article.
Safe, calculated gambles. The Yankees can afford to take these, especially from a pitching - talent standpoint. Because we already have a mother-load of pitching talent in the system to fall back on if we err with some picks.
I love it.:D
MattUNC2003
09-10-07, 09:55 PM
I totally agree.
This seems to sum up your point similarly:
http://www.nomaas.org/brackman2.html
Man, what a find. I'll be the first to admit that my vote is still undecided regarding Brackman, but this article did a darn good job of swaying me into getting excited about the possibilities.
Also, am I the only one that shivered a little bit when the author used the phrase "guessing game?" I had a horrible mental image of Mel Stottlemeyer and Alex Graman pass through my head with that one.
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